Smarani

[mk]

Namonamah.

With reference to:

Smarani 1
१.   वास्तववादाच्या अधिष्ठानावर प्रयत्नवादाची कास धरीत विकासवादाकडे झेप घेणे म्हणजे जीवनविद्या.


What are the exact meanings of वास्तववाद and विकासवाद?
How is " झेप घेणे" a विद्या?

Thanks and regards
Milind Khadilkar

[mk]

Namonamah,

with reference to:

Smarani 2
२.   स्वानंदाचा उपभोग घेण्यासाठी निसर्गदेवतेने जी व्यवस्था केली त्या व्यवस्थेला ?जीवन? असे म्हणतात.

In स्वानंदाचा, what does स्व refer to?

Is जीवन here limited to human life, or to life in all its forms?

Is जीवन here also inclusive of the chaitanyashakti that inhabits non living objects like mountains and rivers? seas and snowfields?

What is निसर्गदेवता in JV terms?  What came first? स्वानंद or जीवन?



Thanks and regards
Milind Khadilkar

[mk]

Namonamah,

Smarani 11
११.   जगातील सर्व धर्मांतील सर्व लोकांसाठी सर्वशक्तीमान परमेश्वर एकच असून तो कोणावरही कृपा किंवा कोप करीत नाही, तर केवळ माणूसच स्वतःच्या कर्मांनी स्वतःवरच कृपा किंवा कोप करीत असतो.
The Almighty Parameshwar transcends all religions, and is the same for the whole of humanity. However he blesses no one and he curses no one. It is man alone who through his deeds is responsible for these consequences.

Thanks and regards
Milind Khadilkar

[mk]

Namonamah,

Smarani 12

१२.   जगातील सर्व धर्मांचे सर्व लोक देवधर्माच्या नांवाखाली खूप कांही करतात, पण प्रत्यक्षात मात्र ते जे कांही करतात, त्या कर्मकांडांत देवही नसतो व धर्मही नसतो.
People lovingly devote themselves to the cause of God and Religion in blind faith. But mere rituals do no good; rather they harm the cause by diverting people from duty.

Thanks and regards
Milind Khadilkar

[mk]

Namonamah,

Smarani 13

१३.   ?तुम्ही सुखाने जगा व इतरांना सुखाने जगू द्या?, या धारणेला खरा धर्म म्हणतात.
?Live happily and let others live happily? is the tenet of true religion.


Thanks and regards
Milind Khadilkar

[mk]

Namonamah,

Smarani 14

१४.   माणसाने निर्माण केलेल्या परमेश्वराच्या पाषाणाच्या मूर्तिपूजेत गुंतीन न राहता, ?विश्वातील प्रत्येक माणूस हीच साक्षात् परमेश्वरानेच निर्माण केलेली परमेश्वराची जीवंत मूर्ती आहे?, या सत्याची जाणीव ठेवून जीवन जगण्यात खरी मूर्तिपूजा व खरा धर्म असून त्यात मानवजातीचे कल्याण तर आहेच, शिवाय मानवजातीच्या सर्व समस्या सहज सोडविण्याचे सामर्थ्य सुद्धां त्यांतच आहे.
Moulding one?s life in the realization that ?every human is a living idol of Parameshwar created by Parameshwar himself? is true devotion and true faith, for in it is the ultimate welfare of mankind and solutions to all its problems.


Thanks and regards
Milind Khadilkar

[mk]

Namonamah,
४.   जीवन जगणे ही एक कला असून ती आत्मसात केल्याशिवाय जीवन सुखी, समृद्ध व यशस्वी होणे शक्य नाही.

What is Kalaa? art or craft? (Kohl describes the difference as: I would like to differentiate between ?ART? and ?CRAFT?. Craft follows distinct steps to a required or expected outcome. Fun, yes, but not art. Art has no planned outcome, though there may be some specialized materials and techniques to use. The results are not planned or expected. Art is free. Craft is static. Process, not product.?)

What, according to JV, is the right meaning here: art or craft?

Thanks and regards

Milind Khadilkar

[mk]

Namonamah,

Smarani 15
१५.   अखिल मानव जातीसाठी धर्म एकच असून प्रचलित असलेले सर्व धर्म हे प्रत्यक्षात धर्म नसून संप्रदाय होत.
There is but one human religion and all extant religions are just sects, persuasions.

Thanks and Regards
Milind Khadilkar

[mk]

Namonamah,

Smarani 16
१६.   ?आपण सुखी व्हावे, इतरांचे काय वाटेल ते होवो? अशी वृत्ती ही प्रकृती, ?आपले काय वाटेल ते होवो पण दुसर्यांचे वाटोळे झालेच पाहिजे? अशी वृत्ती ही विकृती आणि ?आपण सुखी आसावे व इतर सर्व सुखी व्हावेत? अशी वृत्ती ही संस्कृती होय.
Our thoughts towards others define what we are: ?I should be happy, whatever may befall others? is human, ?Another must suffer, no matter if I suffer in the process? is devilish and ?May I be happy, and so be all? is saintly.


Thanks and Regards

Milind Khadilkar

[mk]

Namonamah,

Smarani 17

१७.   माणूस त्याच्या स्वतःच्याच विचार, उच्चार, आचार यांच्याद्वारे नियती निर्माण करत असतो आणि त्यानेच निर्माण केलेली त्याचीच नियती त्याच्या सुख-दुःखाला कारणीभूत ठरत असते.
Through his thought, speech and action Man continuously shapes his own destiny which in turn continuously moulds  his life.

Thanks and regards

Milind Khadilkar

[mk]

Namonamah,

This one gave me a lot of trouble.... am still working on it....

Smarani 18
१८.   अर्थ प्राप्त करून देणारे, स्वार्थ साधणारे, अनर्थ निर्माण करणारे व परमार्थ साधणारे असे हे मन आपल्या जीवनाचे केंद्र असून ते मनच राम आहे किंवा रावण आहे, शंकर आहे किंवा भयंकर आहे, मोक्ष देणारे किंवा कपाळमोक्ष करणारे आहे.
Our powerful mind can make or mar our lives. It can enslave or enlighten us. On it depends our happiness and our grief, our material progress and our spiritual wellbeing.


Thanks and regards
Milind Khadilkar

[mk]

Namonamah,

Smarani 19

१९.   मनाने आपल्याला जिंकणे हा प्रपंच तर मनाला आपण जिंकणे हा परमार्थ होय.
Letting mind shape life is worldly achievement; conquering the mind is spiritual attainment.


Thanks and regards
Milind Khadilkar

[mk]

Namonamah,

Again, this one still troubles me...

Smarani 20

२०.   समाजाची सुरेख धारणा करण्याचे अतूल सामर्थ्य फक्त एकाच गोष्टीत आहे व ते म्हणजे ?शहाणपण? हे होय. म्हणून शहाणपणाचा अभाव हाच अधर्म असून शहाणपणाचा प्रभाव हाच खरा धर्म होय.
Prudence alone is the religion that can sustain society harmoniously. Discarding prudence is dereliction of duty.


Thanks and regards
Milind Khadilkar

[mk]

Namonamah

Smarani 5
५.   जीवन म्हणजे खेळ, जुगार किंवा संगीत नसून ते एक न संपणारे युद्घ आहे.

युद्ध, पण कोणाविरुद्ध?

जर आपल्याला कोणताही  निर्णय घेतेवेळी आपल्या पुण्यसंचयाचा आवाका नसेल, तर असा निर्णय हा जुगार नव्हे का?

Thanks and regards

Milind Khadilkar

[subhash]

MK,

Coming after a looooooooooooong break (My password during these days was 2much2do!).

Visiting the forum after a gap of few months and I hit upon lots of interesting posts and Qs. Here is an attempt to answer few from this topic (Must compliment a very good attempt to try to translate Satguru's Amrit Tushars):

1. Translation is not transliteration. It will be correct understanding reflected and communicated correctly in a different language.

2. There is a SHABDARTHA, BHAVARTHA, GUHYARTHA and ANUBHAV. ANUBHAV is SWASANVEDYA or experience is only known to the person who is experiencing. That experience is really THE KNOWLEDGE. Description of that experience is an attempt to take the reader, knowledge-seeker to that experience. However one has to practice SADHANA to reach to the last level.

3. Really speaking we will not know the GUHYARTHA until we start doing SADHANA (a bridge between SAMAJANE and UMAJANE). When SADHANA becomes a way of life then we reach the last stage. When we reach the level of ANUBHAVA then words do not matter. We have by then experienced the essence or meaning of it.

4. SHABDARTHA is of interest to academicians. Since there is no experience to so-called VIDWANS (people who think they understand the words and hence meanings better) there is VISAMVAAD or VITANDAVAAD, but since Saints and Sages are men and women of wisdom and have experienced the truth (no perception!!), they have SUSAMVAAD and SAMVAAD among them. They talk the same thing. e.g. there is no inconsistency among what has been told in various scriptures, Geeta, Upanishadas, Abhangas or other GRANTHAs.

5. Conclusion is that the objective should be to experience the truth. We will use all the logic in the world to understand what has been presented by Saints but if we are reaching some wrong or incosistent conclusions then we need to correct our understanding. The real clarity will of course come out of experience. Till then we all are discussing some perception of truth and trying to understand it through words. Of course this step is also important. But most important is through SADHANA experience it yourself.

On the backdrop of 1. to 5. let's now ponder on some of your Qs:

1. You have asked WAR against whom?
Really speaking it is against yourself. You are trying to conquer your own mind. You are trying to liberate from your own beliefs. You are trying to come out of your own KALPANA, SANKALPA and that is unending unless we realize our own true self.

2. Why is it not JUGAR?
JUGAR has a chance aspect to it. Here, it is based on the laws of nature. Consistent SATKARMAs do not leave anything to chance. This has been depicted in VALYA to VALMIKI story. He transformed himself from one extreme to the other extreme through his good deeds. Our decisions should be based on the predictable outcomes based on laws of nature and are independent of PAAP/PUNYA stack details in past.

3. WISDOM is the real meaning of SHAHANPAN and not just prudence. What is WISDOM? There are many definitions produced by Satguru - but most important one is "Living life in tune with laws of nature." WISDOM comes out of knowledge.

SMARANI has already been translated. You might want to read - http://www.jeevanvidya.org/philosophy_quotes.htm - after you have translated these all.

More in next posts....

God bless you, God bless all.
Subhash