JEEVANVIDYA PRASHNAVALI-

[dr.nutanpol]

Akhil manav jatila shantisukhacha rajmarg dakhavanarya Shri. Sadguru Mauli ani Sau. Mai yana anant koti namaskaar.

Sarvana saprem abhivadan.

Ya topic madhye sarvani bhag ghyava ashi namr vinanti aahe.

Q. 1- Shri. Sadguruni sangitallela shanti sukhacha rajmarg konta?


Vitthal Vitthal!

May God bless all of us!

dr.nutan

[akanksha]

Q. 1- Shri. Sadguruni sangitallela shanti sukhacha rajmarg konta?

ans:- shanti sukhacha rajmarg mhnje vishwaprarthana
pls barober aahe ka ?
Vitthal Vitthal!

May God bless all of us!

[dr.nutanpol]

Q. 1- Shri. Sadguruni sangitallela shanti sukhacha rajmarg konta?

ans:- shanti sukhacha rajmarg mhnje vishwaprarthana. 

Ho Akanksha tu dilele uttar barobar aahe. Vishvaprarthana ani Sadgurubodh lakshat thevun shahanpanane jagne ha Shantisukhacha rajmarg aahe.

[dr.nutanpol]

Let us start prashanvali again..

Q. Jeevanvidyela abhipret asnari lifestyle konti?

[sukhsiddhi]

Sarvanna namaskar ,

jeevanvidya ase sangate ki shubh vichar, shubh aachar shubh chintan ani shubh bolane aapan nehami kele pahije yashivay aapale samaj upyukta kam avadine godine kele pahije. he sarva karat astana aaplya hrudayatil ishwarache va sadgurunche krutadnyata purvak nitya smaran kele pahije..yalach sant " hatane kaam mumkhane raam hrudaya madhe aatmaraam".ashi lifestyle asali pahije ase mhantat.

may god blesss u all!!!!!!!

[dr.nutanpol]

  Sarvana namaskar,

Good answer Sukhsiddhi. Keep it up! Welcome to forum. Keep on participating!

  Q. Dnyan milavanyache marg konte konate ahet?

[Varsha]

Sarvana Namaskar,

Dnyan milavnyache marg mhanje shuddha sravan,vaachan aani chintan(correct me if I am wrong).



I have a question-
In this week's lecture on eprasaran(Sansar sukhacha) Sadguru has mentioned 3 types of dnyan
1 Vidnyan 2 Aatmadnyan 3 Pradnyan(Prabhuche dnyan).

But Aatmadnyan and Pradnyan sound same to me.Please explain the difference between these two.

Vitthal Vitthal!!!

[dr.nutanpol]

 Sarvana Namaskar,

Dnyan milavanyache marg varshane sangitalele barobar ahet.

Tyashivay

anubhav- swatahacha ani dusayacha

sadhana, sharanagati- Satguru bodhache palan ani tyanchyavishayi asnare prem, krutadnyata, satguru seva-dehachya angane ani dnyanachya angane seva, sarveshvarachi seva yamule Shri Satgurunchi v atmdevachi krupa hote ani rhudayat dnyan prakat hote.

Atmdnyan he don prakarache ahe. Ek mhanje shabdartane- yasathi avashyak asnari  suksm  buddhi sadhanene hote ani mag Shri Satguruni sangitalele aplyalala shabdachya arthachya angane kalate. Tyanantar Satguruni sangiataleli sadhana jevha pakv hote tevha aplyala atmanubhavacha anubhav yeto. Anubhav alyavar divy bhav dharan karava lagat nahi tar to sahaj asto. Atmdnyan hi ek event nasun ti ek gradual process ahe.

Sadhana kashi karayachi? Divy bhav ka dharan kela pahije? Kay kele mhanje Shri Satguru krupa hoil? man mhanje kay te kase hatalayache?  Manache transformation divine mind madhye kase hote? vagire dnyan Pradnyan-prabhuche dnyan yat modate. 

Question- Manavi sanskrutiche saptsheel konate?

[sukhsiddhi]

Sarvanna Namaskar  ,

Manavi sanskruti che saptshil pudhil pramane ahe : Saptashil of human culture are as follows:

(1)Ekata - Unity.

(2)Samata - Equality.

(3)Sahishnuta - Empathy/consideration for everybody.

(4)Samanjasya - desire to do compromise and ready to listen other people's views.

(5)Samadhan - Contentment.

(6)Namrata - Humbleness.

(7)Lavachikta - Flexibility.

[shambhagwat]

But Aatmadnyan and Pradnyan sound same to me.Please explain the difference between these two.

सर्वांना नमस्कार,

नमस्कार वर्षा,

तुमची वरील शंका बरेच दिवस अनुत्तरीत राहिली आहे असे वाटल्याने हे लिहित आहे.  आत्मज्ञान ही सर्वोच्च स्थिती नाही.  त्यापुढे आणखी एक अवस्था असते.  आत्मज्ञान पचल्यावर ही अवस्था प्राप्त होत असते.  या अवस्थेला सिध्दावस्था किंवा स्थितप्रज्ञ अशी संज्ञा वापरली जाते.  आणखी वेगळ्याप्रकारे सांगावयाचे झाल्यास असे म्हणता येईल की उन्मनी स्थिती प्राप्त झाल्यावर होणारे ज्ञान म्हणजे आत्मज्ञान तर उन्मनी स्थिती पचल्यावर प्राप्त होणाऱ्या ज्ञानाला प्रज्ञान असे म्हणतात.  दुसऱ्या शब्दात सांगावयाचे झाल्यास विश्वातील प्रत्येक अणूरेणूत जो भरून राहिलेला आहे त्याला परमेश्वर म्हणतात.  ह्या परमेश्वराचे ज्ञान म्हणजे प्रज्ञान.  तर या परमेश्वराचा अंश म्हणून देहातून वावरत असलेल्या आत्म्याचे होणारे ज्ञान म्हणजे आत्मज्ञान होय.  थोडक्यात आत्मज्ञान म्हणजे ईश्वराचे ज्ञान तर प्रज्ञान म्हणजे परमेश्वराचे ज्ञान असेही म्हणता येईल.

आत्मज्ञानी माणूस घसरू शकतो पण सिध्द म्हणजे अशी अवस्था की जेथून घसरण्याची यत्किंचीतही शक्यता नसते.  आत्मज्ञान झालेला माणूस पूर्णपणे विरक्त बनतो.  परंतू हे आत्मज्ञान पचलेले असले पाहिजे.  जर आत्मज्ञान झाले आहे पण ते अजून पचलेले नसेल तर असा विरक्त माणूस जो स्थितप्रज्ञ अथवा सिध्द होण्याच्या बेतात आहे तोही घसरू शकतो.  मला वाटते  ही घसरण कशी होते याबाबतची माझी मते मी "खरूज" या पोस्टमधे मांडलेली आहेत.

सर्वांना नमस्कार.  सर्वांना शुभेच्छा.

[Geeta Datar]

Namaskar Sham Bhagwat

It is always nice to read your comments. As usual reply to Varsha is very informative. Thank you very much.

God bless all with akhand VP

Geeta Datar

[Varsha]

Namaskar Shree Sham Bhagwatji,

I am so happy to read your post after so long.Thank you so much for the answer .It was a treat to read your post on this topic, on my birthday.

Nutan tai thanks for your reply as well.

May God Bless All.

[MEENA PATKAR]

To,
Nutantai
Vithalvithal
 
It's great that you have started this pattern of qt.-ans.Thanks to you and all.I am really getting lot of things to learn.

Many thanks to shambhagwatjee!What a nice explanation he has given about Aatmadyan & Pradnyan.I read it again & again.He has really made us alert while doing our studies/sadhana.

Really greatful to you & all ,for this particular discussion .Reading & thinking on the various qts & ans giving more & more knowledge.


Thanks & regards,
Meena
May God bless all

[mk]

Namonamah,

Shamjee Namaste,

I am glad that you have posted again on the forum. From your earlier posts I realize that you would rather stay away from participating to a greater extent in the forum and I respect your position. I am however sure that you will nevertheless intervene and provide guidance from time to time, especially when wrong notions go unnoticed or accepted through our ignorance.

Thanks.
My regards to you

Milind Khadilkar

[dr.nutanpol]

Namaskar,

Thank you Shri Shamaji for giving your valuable guidance.

I am sorry that I got late to write mail on this topic of Prashnavali. I wanted to clear my doubts from senior namdharak of JV. I discussed my queries with Shrimati Vandanatai Belhe who is senior namadharak and prabhodhak. This is my understanding of the subject after discussion.

Atmdnyan is initially a theoretical knowledge that, Chaitanya tatv exists in the form of each human being and all living and nonliving existences. Later as sadhana advances, if we have sufficient amount of punya and we do sadhana with persistent efforts and have intense desire to attain knowledge of self then and then only Shri Satguru blesses us with awakening of divine intuition that is our conscious mind is elevated and subconscious mind is sublimed and both of them unite to form divine mind and this mind gets knowledge of self with the experience. (otherwise mind remain in a state of pure conscious and subconsc. Mind only.) The divine intution or Divya pratibha dnyan or rutumbhara pradnya gets awakened in divine mind which gives the experience of adwait-state of experience of God. (Sugandh Jeevanvidyecha, Dnyanache char prakar, page 102-3) Only with Shri Satguru's grace it is possible to have anubhuti that chaitanya tatv exists in all living and non living things. (The great Saint Tukaram says after this experience-anu renu thokada Tuka akashaevadha)

Saint Dnyaneshwar says that, anant rupe, anant veshe mya dekhile tyasi.

       So atmdnyan in its true sense is possible when one realises that Chaitanya tatv alone exists in this world in all forms and everything is one-(Drashta-drushya and drushy pahanyachi kriya is one) There is no existence called "I" though initially as Shamaji said there is experience that "I" is a form of all pervading Chaitanya tatva which exists in body. Later this smaran goes and there is only state when one just exists(state of existanance) till he completes his all sanchit and then self realised person keeps desire to exist to help others. Some saints explain this process of taking Sagun form as follows-Pure ghee when it is newly formed from melted butter is in liquid state but as it comes to room temperature it stays in semi liquid state. Similarly Nirgun Chaitanya tatva which exists as infinite ocean of energy particles takes sagun form and is manifested in all living and non living creations.

According to Vandana tai Pradnyan is theoretical knowledge of God (Parameshawar) Hence it includes study of mind(Consc. Mind and Subconsc. Mind and it's gradual transformation to Divine mind-(Unmani avashta) but only theory part and does not include experience part of this divine mind.
 
  When I searched internet to see the meaning of Pradnayn I found that somebody (name not given) has quoted that Pradnyan is the highest level of mind which percieves
the knowledge of God. I think that this meaning of Pradnyan is equivalent to Divya pratibh Dnyan or Divine intuition which is awakened after sadhana and Shri Satguru's grace.

I am extremely sorry if anybody is misguided by my earlier post.     

The answer given by Siddhi is right and I request all to please express your thoughts on the question asked by Pramila.