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« on: December 19, 2007, 11:02:49 PM »

Namonamah.

For some reason JV does not call itself a religion. Sometimes it tacitly justifies it by adding words to the effect "in the conventional sense".

Why is JV not a religion? Maybe it does not want to be compared with the so called religions of today, but surely it has all ingredients of religion.
I am sure all religions started with asking the same questions and by providing the best answers that were possible under the circumstances (time, location etc.) and that could be generalised to other contexts in life. The answers were couched in the language of the day, and were supplemented by literature that explained them through tales, fables etc. Also were stipulated a set of actions or avoidances that symbolised various things (among them symbolizing acceptance of the "answers" provided) and these were eventually canonized into law. JV has not reached that stage but if JV members are not careful, they could lead JV that way (they being collectively the sjilpakaars of JV's destiny) very soon. Then JV could become just another conventional religion ( or be swallowed up by the formless Hinduism. much in the way it swallowed Buddhism (and made Budhdha an Avataar of Vishnu!). Sufism, Emperor Akbar's Din-e- Ilahi are two examples of a panth and a religion started with the right intentions in late medieval times which somehow could not survive.



Or, does JV refrain from calling itself a religion to avoid confrontation?

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Milind Khadilkar
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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2007, 07:42:42 PM »

MK,

too many Qs for one post. Let me try:

Define religion for me when you are asking about why JV is not a religion? If you are terming religion as a path to reach God and examples are Hindu, Muslim, etc. JV propagates the non-conventional religion of KARTAVYADHARMA. As a human being you have duty towards your family (parents, spouse, children), neighbours, society, nation, world and God. KARTAVYADHARMA has infinite rays and DEVADHARMA is just a part of that. JV takes a more holistic, non-traditional approach. JV gives same importance to DEHA and DEVA, SANSAR and PARAMARTHA, PAISA and PUNYA (although little more to PUNYA), material prosperity and psycho-spiritual progress.

JV does not fear confrontation while propagating the truth but does not promote confrontation as a strategy - rather allows you to collaborate harmoniously. JV emphasizes on KARMACHANG and does not go after KARMAKAND - rituals (which forms a big part of so-called Dharmas). JV stresses on the importance of WISDOM and living life in tune with laws of nature.

JV is not water-tight. It does not recommend A WAY. e.g. HINSA or AHINSA. There is no single correct answer to adopting only HINSA or only AHINSA. Satguru says although AHINSA is recommended for personal benefits we need to choose AHINSA for larger interests. It recommends taking a pragmatic approach towards leading a life. Although the best answer may depend on time and circumstances - JV goes even more fundamental in defining the principles based on which you will get the answer. These principles are independent of time and location.

A big part of the religion is also faith. JV propagates scientific faith.

From the above you will realize that in every sense of the term, JV does not comply with traditional religion but is different.

Hope your query is answered.

For want of time - please note that one could not tell 1000 more aspects that will form part of the answer and hence the recommendations around reading books - Please read the CHAR PURUSHARTHA in ANDHAR ANDHASHRADDHECHA and second chapter in JEEVANVIDYECHA MANGAL KALASH. Not all of it can be explained in one small book. Hence compliment it with Satguru's lectures.

God Bless All,
Subhash
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God bless you, God bless all.
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