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« on: January 13, 2008, 02:16:36 AM »

We must understand what  kind of views Jeevanvidya and other saints have  regarding "Idol Worship".
 I am posting few paragraphs  from the book written by Shri. Satguru in Marathi, "Hich khari Murtipooja, hach khara dharm"  This is a wonderful book written by Shri. Satguru and I request all to please read this book especially those who understand Marathi must read it.
 I am posting this translation for the benefiet of all those who do not understand Marathi. (Pages which are given below are 1-6 and 40-43)


                     TRUE  IDOL WORSHIP AND TRUE  RELIGION

   In India, idol worship is going on since ancient times and is very controversial. On one side we find people who believe that idol worship is the best and a glorious path of devotion. On the contrary, there are others who are convinced that, it is the most inferior way of worshiping and should not be followed. People of certain religion advocate idol worship and feel that by doing so they will get PUNYA (blessings of GOD in the form of merits ); while those of another religion who call themselves religious, feel that destroying idols and temples is a religious act which will be blessed by God. According to Jivanvidya, both the sectors of people are equally ignorant. If both of them would not have existed, the subject ?idol worship? would not have led to malice, hatred, conflicts, riots and even war at times; where many people have been killed. In reality both the believers and non believers of idol worship are equally ignorant. Both of them do not know what is GOD and how to worship him? How to surrender oneself to GOD? How to please him? What happens in our lives exactly when HE is happy with us and blesses us? Actually the word Religion means the path by which we can appease GOD or attain GOD but if we do not know the destination then how would we know the path? Similarly when we do not know what is GOD, How would we know the path by which we can go near HIS feet? Such situation results in lot of confusion about the concept of GOD, idol or image of GOD and religion. Therefore there is chaos in the world by the name of worship since ancient times. Hence we should try to see what is GOD? How to worship HIM truly? And what is an ideal concept of religion?

                        Everybody knows how normally idol worship is done. An idol of stone or metal is placed either at home or in a temple and then flowers, tumeric, kumkum, sandalwood paste etc. are applied to it. We lighten the lamp before the idol and do arati. Finally fruits and delicious sweets are offered to the deity. Our ancestors have taught us idol worship with an aim that, we should gradually learn to do true worship as our intelligence would get sharpened in due course of time but motive behind teaching idol worship got lost over the period of time and we engaged ourselves mechanically in idol worship. We were worshipping the stone idol, assuming it to be the symbol of GOD but in this process after passing of few centuries; we got convinced that ?The Idol? is GOD. Actually though our sages and saints knew that, idol is not GOD but realizing a fact that GOD can not be perceived by our sense organs; they advocated idol worship for the convenience of people. But in reality this convenience became the cause of concern as it led to much confusion, conflicts, and ultimately chaos. The main cause for this entire situation is ignorance of common man and blind beliefs-faiths as well as fear of natural calamities and disasters, diseases, illnesses and fear of loosing near-dear relatives and ones death. Therefore, shrewd religious leaders and scholars took advantage of these apprehensions for their own interests like monetary benefits, prestigious position in society, fame and power to control people and their lives etc. These so called religious leaders rather than educating and enlightening the common man about GOD; encouraged them to keep blind faiths and beliefs. After doing idol worship for such a long time people were convinced and as if were hypnotized with the idea that "The Idol is GOD."  These religious leaders who had their selfish interests; asked people to continue many so called religious acts i.e. rites and rituals to please GOD.

                        They convinced people that, performing a certain so called religious act (like keeping fast or visiting place of worship on particular day, performing certain rites and rituals.etc.) would please GOD. People became sure that failing to perform rites and rituals would harm them and any untoward event may occur in their lives. As a result of this situation common man lost the confidence about handling difficult or adverse conditions in his life and started visiting so called religious leaders, babas, fakirs, priests, god men etc. for his trivial problems to get the blessings from GOD and also from these self declared religious leaders. Because of them, people were blindfolded and got themselves busy in various religious acts to please GOD. Such situation exists not only in Hindu religion but also in other religions with little difference.

                        Human body is a gift of GOD. Actually human body is an incarnation of GOD himself. HE exists everywhere hence HE also exists in human body. Electricity requires the medium like tube light, lamp etc. to express. Similarly GOD (Divine Life Force) requires medium to express. Hence HE expresses through human body. Our body is not created by our parents. If it would have been created by man then all children would be fair, tall, intelligent and beautiful and virtuous but this is not the fact as we all know. But that does not mean that there is no creator for this body and to say so would be a foolish act. When we see any beautiful sculpture we do not have any doubt over the fact that there is somebody behind this creation. To create an ordinary sculpture, the sculptor requires many instruments and has to take lot of efforts to create it. He also has to learn the art and gain skill. And one who masters all this proudly tells everybody that he has created that sculpture. After so much of hassle when we see the sculpture; we find that it is much inferior compared to human body. It does not move, does not walk, talk or laugh can not think or express views. In fact sculpture is incapable of doing anything.

                        On the contrary, human sculpture can walk, talk, laugh, play, can think and plan. Actually it has the capacity to do countless activities. Though this body has complex intrinsic structure, there is no mess in it. The most amazing fact is that the creator who has built this sculpture is hidden and invisible and this creator has not used any evident instruments. There is great planning, systematic organization and skill used in preparing structure of this body which is in an exact proportion. Even though GOD has created such a great sculpture, HE has never proclaimed that HE IS THE ONE, who is responsible for this beautiful creation. GOD is the sculptor of this body and the human body is a living idol of GOD. Hence taking due care of this divine image of GOD and remembering the almighty GOD, who has created this miraculous sculpture with love and gratitude is true worship and true devotion of GOD. In this context the hymn written by Saint Tukaram which has the following meaning is quite instructive.

                        "Karavi he puja manechi uttam "करावी हे पुजा मनेचि उत्तम
                        Laukikakache kam kay ase ?  लौकिकाचे काम काय असे

   This means, "The best worship is done by mind.
                       Then what is the role of the material world?"

                        It is extremely unfortunate that we do not know the essence of real worship; hence people engage themselves in idol worship mechanically. In reality idol or image worship is meant for learning real worship only. GOD created human body as HIS divine image. We should remember this fact while worshipping a stone idol. To understand this aspect in depth we should observe and analyze the manner in which we do idol worship. In this process of worship, we apply sandalwood paste to an idol and the same we apply to ourselves. We offer various fragrances to GOD and same we perceive. We lighten lamp in front of an idol and do arati and experience its delight. We offer sweets to an idol and then consume it as Prasad. All this means that the so called idol worship is to realize the concept of true worship.(From Pages 1-6)( Hence Satguru says in his pravachans that the real God enjoys in this process of idol worship and not an idol, who is not the true God.)

Page-40        Actually after doing idol worship in elementary stage we should change ourselves and learn the method of real worship of GOD. In this context, teaching of saints is quite clear. They tell us emphatically that we should change our method of worship from idol worship to formless worship or while doing idol worship we should engage ourselves to formless worship. They teach us with conviction,

                        "Shivam bhutva shivam yajet"
            "We can attain GODLY state by keeping in mind that we are one with GOD- we exist as chaitanya shakti (State of Shiva)".

     This saying which is mentioned in our scriptures is quite famous.

     Saint Tukaram tells us that,

    Kaya hi pandhari atma ha Vitthal  काया ही पंढरी आत्मा हा विठ्ठल
     Nandato keval I Pandhurang II  नांदतो केवळ पांडुरंग

This means that,

                        Body is abode of Vitthal (GOD) I
                        Soul is Vitthal II
                        There stays only I Vitthal II

     Great Saint Dnyaneshwar maharaj clearly tells us in his poetry that,

                        Dev Dev mhanoni I vyartha ka firasi I देव देव म्हणोनि व्यर्थ का फिरसि
                        Nij Dev nenasi I muli kon? II निज देव नेणसि मुळि कोण
                        Deva nahi rup I Deva nahi nav I देवा नाही रूप देवा नाही नाव
                        Deva nahi gav I kothe kahi II देवा नाही गाव कोठे नाही
                        Dnyandev mhane I bhaja atmadeva I ज्ञानदेव म्हणे भजा आत्मदेवा
                        Akhandit seva kara tyachi II अखंडित सेवा करा त्याचि

Dnyaneshwar maharaj means that,

                        Why are you wandering and calling for GOD for no reason?
                        You are ignorant about GOD, who resides in your heart. Who is HE?
                       GOD does not have form. GOD does not have any specific name.
                       GOD does not have particular place anywhere.
                         Dnyaneshwar says you should worship GOD who dwells in your heart.
                         Serve HIM relentlessly.

     Dnyaneshwar maharaj tells in Haripath, (Book written by him in which benefits of enchanting name of Lord are described in detail.)

                        Ayakta nirakar I nahi jya akaar II अव्यक्त निराकार नाही ज्या आकारा
                        Jethuni charachar I tyasi bhaje II जेथुनि चराचर त्यासि भजे
                        Dnyandev mhane I Nivrutti nirguna II ज्ञानदेव म्हणे निवृत्ति निर्गुण
                        Didhale sampurn I majhe hati II दिधले संपूर्ण माझे हाति
By this he means that,

                       You should pray, ?The Formless and the one beyond all manifestations (NIRGUN) -Source of all 
                        From where all living and all non-living forms are created?.
                        Dnyaneshwar says his sadguru Nivruttinath Maharaj
                        Who is NIRGUN himself has given him total experience of NIRGUN.

     There are many superstitious stories told about Namdev Maharaj. He has spoken ruthlessly in very clear words.
                        Dagadacha Dev I Manila Iswar II दगडाचा देव मानिला ईश्वर
                        Pari to sachar I Dev bhinn II परि तो साचार देव भिन्न
                        Dagadacha Dev I Ichcha puravito II दगडाचा देव इच्छा पुरवितो
                        Tari ka bhangato I Aaghatane II तरि तो भंगतो आघाताने
                        Pashan devachi I Bhakti je kariti II पाषाण देवाचि भक्ति जे करिती
                        Sarvasvi mukati I Mudhapane II सर्वस्वी मुकति मुढपणे
                        Pattharacha Dev I Bolato bhaktate Iपत्थराचा देव बोलतो भक्ताते
                        Sangati eikati I Doghehi murkh IIसांगती ऐकती दोघेही मुर्ख
                        Dwadashiche diwashi I Zala updesh II द्वादशीचे दिवशी झाला उपदेश
                        Devavin os I Sthala nahi II देवावीण ओस स्थळ नाही
                        To Dev Namya I Rhudayi davila II तो देव नाम्या ह्दयी दाविला
                        Khecharane kela I upkaar II खेचराने केला उपकार

Namdev Maharaj is telling us that,

                        People think that stone idol is GOD
                        But GOD who has taken all the forms is different
                        If we think that stone idol is capable of fulfilling all our desires.
                        Then why does he get broken after striking?
                        Those who worship stone idol
                        Have lost everything because of their foolishness
                        The one who tells others and one who listens to him both of them are fools
                        I got advice on twelfth day of full moon (got enlightened)
                        GOD exists everywhere
                        My sadguru Khechar has obliged me
                       He has shown this GOD (Divine life force) in my heart.

          Jivanvidya tells in clear words

?Enjoyment which we experience in doing Nirgun worship can not be experienced by doing Sagun worship.? (Sagun worship is the worship of form or an idol.)

                        Sagun worship which saints refer is of two types. First is worship of formless (vyatirek or direct) which we can experience in the form of peace and bliss and secondly worship of GOD (anvay or indirect) who exists in many forms as world. (1)Worship of formless (vyatirek or direct) we can do in continuous meditation on our own existence. (2) And if we can stay in a state where we always remember that, this world is nothing but manifestation of my existence in many forms then that is a worship of all pervading GOD(anvay or indirect).

                                All this means that, if we live life in such a way that we are doing conscious efforts to stay in a state of knowledge that GOD (Divine life force)  exists every where as systematized order then it would be called ideal worship of GOD. In this context following poetry of an English poet is very thoughtful.

                        I sleep in peace and wake in joy
                        And in him I live, move and have my being

           Similarly Saint Tukaram tells us very important principle and teaches us very nicely.

                        Vishnumay jag I Vaishnavancha dharm Iविष्णुमय जग वैष्णवांचा धर्म
                        Bhedabhed bhrama I Amangal भेदाभेद भ्रम अमंगळ
                        Ayikaji tumhi I Bhakta bhagawat II आयीकाजी तुम्ही भक्त भागवत
                        Karal te hit I Satya kara II कराल ते हित सत्य करा
                        Konahi bhutacha I Na ghado matsar II कोणाही भूताचा न घडो मत्सर
                        Varm Sarveshwar I Pujanache II वर्म सर्वेश्वर पूजनाचे
                        Tuka mhane eka I Dehache avayav II तुका म्हणे एका देहाचे अवयव
                        Sukh dukhkh jiv I Bhog pawe II सुख-दुःख भोग पावे

Saint Tukaram means that,

                        True religion of GOD worshippers is to see that whole world as various forms of GOD.
                        To see it any way different in delusion is improper for them.
                        You all people are worshippers of GOD
                        So whatever you do, do it correctly
                        You should never be jealous of anybody
                        This is the essence of worship of GOD
                        Tukaram says we all are appendages of that single body (GOD)
                        Happiness and sorrow are as a result of our ignorance (that we are different than GOD)
Pages 40-43
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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2008, 04:45:54 PM »

Dr. Pol,

good topic. Few things from Satguru's lectures and books:

1. UTTAMAHA SAHAJAVASTHA, MADHYAMO DHYAANDHARANA
KANISHTHA PRATIMAPOOJA, TEERTHATANO ADHAMADHAMA

2. IDOL - MAN IS GOD-MADE but GOD (IDOL and WRONG CONCEPT OF GOD) IS MAN-MADE

3. BAGULBUWA (In-house version of scarecrow - can not translate it better) HA LAHAN MULANSATHI ASTO TASE IDOL WORSHIP is good for beginners

4. Moortipujekadun (SAGUN-UPASANEKADUN) Sphoortipoojekade (NIRGUN-UPASANEKADE) jayache ahe.

5. Human Body is living idol of God, wonder of wonders and kind of miracles.

6. VITTHAL HA PHAKTA PANDHARPUR-MADHECH NAHI - TUKA MHANE AMHA BRAHMANDA PANDHARI

7. Moortipooja karto kon ikde lakasha dyave.

Will come with more points later.

God bless all,
Subhash
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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2008, 09:58:20 PM »

Namaskaar to all,

Satguru was asked a question whether he opposes idol worship and he has answered this question in his book, "Jeevanvidyecha Mangal Kalash" (Page-83-85) I have translated this for the benefit of readers. This book is written in the manner of question and answer and it is in Marathi.
 
Question-Do you oppose Idol Worship??

Answer-First of all let me tell you that, I do not oppose Idol Worship. It is a good option for the common man. The Nirgun-formless existence of God is difficult to understand for the common man. So image or sculpture of God is helpful as a method of upasana - method of worship for the common man. It also helps in teaching upasana to our children and to inculcate in their mind that we should pay respect and have gratitude for God.

Second point which I want to tell about Idol Worship is, though Idol Worship is helpful for the beginners JV says that we should not remain in this primary stage of upasana forever and we should progress towards Nirgun Upasana.

 Third point is, everybody (children and adults also) know idol or image is not God. As we progress in upasana our intellect becomes sharper and sharper and we feel more and more intensely that image or idol is not God. In this strange situation man gets confused because he realizes that idol or image is not God and at the same time does not know the true concept of God. In this situation it is extremely beneficial for the sadhak to learn the method of doing worship of atma-swaroop, Nirgun Upasana.

     Forth point is, I criticize Idol Worship in my discourses because Hindu religion is divided in many castes, sub castes etc. and hence Hindus could not progress before and now also these divisions are coming in the path of progress of Hindus.  Idol worship is one point where they have different views. Hindus worship various idols and images and have different methods of upasanas ; hence the gap which was existent in different sampradayas is getting widened day by day. There are many hurdles in bringing all Hindus together and Idol Worship is the prime reason.

   Fifth point is whenever India was invaded by foreigners, after winning war they tried to convert people to their religion. While doing this they destroyed and mutilated idols of Hindu deities. They had wicked intention in doing this. They wanted to prove Hindus that they who destroy and mutilate deities are superior to deities. They wanted to tell emphatically that Hindu religion which asks Hindus to do Idol Worship is inferior to their religion. No deity opposed these idol destroyers. Therefore many Hindus thought that if deities could not protect themselves, so how could we believe that deities would protect us?     
 
    As a result of all this Hindus got mentally depressed and morals of invaders got raised. All this resulted in great loss for Hindu religion. This is the principal reason why JV criticizes "Idol Worship".


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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2008, 02:19:36 AM »

 
Namaskaar,
 
Satguru has answered the question regarding idol worship in his book "Purpose of life" as well. Page-17-32

Q. Do you oppose idol worship?

A. No please. The fact is that the sages and saints had a very important and noble objective behind teaching people to perform idol worship. They were fully aware that idol of God was not God at all. Even then they encouraged the common people to worship idols since it was an easy and convenient way for them to begin worship of God. Their intention was that after performing idol worship in the elementary stage the idol worshipper should move on to his own human body, then to the mind, then to the life force that dwells within the heart and finally to the all pervading God himself.

    However, in course of time this noble objective was overlooked and people became engrossed only in idol worship and rituals associated with it. People completely forgot the very truth that idol is only a symbol of God and not God himself. Further people started believing that idol itself is a God and started undertaking various types of rites and rituals like kaul (asking God for his verdict) and navas (Promising to give God something in lieu of the desire to be fulfilled by him) to propitiate Him and to avoid his wrath, resulting people becoming fatalists and fanatics. It may be agreed that idol worship is a necessity in the elementary stage of worship of God but JEEVANVIDYA does not approve of people getting fully involved in  idol worship forever. No doubt one has to start his/her educational career at the level of K.G.(Kindergarten)) so that one can progress further till the graduation level, but it would be foolish on his/her part to remain in Junior K.G. forever. The same is true for idol worship. The idol is nothing but the sculpture created by sculptor and this sculpture is made from stone, metal or wood. The belief that this man-made sculpture is God Almighty is basically wrong. On the contrary to bring the infinite divine God to the low level of a small sculpture is itself is a big hoax and an insult to him. Hence one may at the most consider the idol as a symbol of God but under no circumstances it can be accepted as God Himself. In other words to encourage people to indulge in rites and rituals with the belief that the stone idol would shower blessings on them or would help them to avoid difficulties and calamities in their worldly life is nothing but cheating ordinary people. Those people who indulge in such rites and rituals are either deluding themselves due to their ignorance and blind faith or they are being cheated by shrewd people, who are always alert to take advantage of the ignorance and blind faith of the masses. People who believe that such rites and rituals can propitiate God are living in fools paradise. The correct way to propitiate God is by performing good action in tune with the universal laws of nature. The rites and rituals that are performed under the influence of ignorance and superstition are nothing but psychological prison created by human beings for themselves. People create such prisons, enter them and get entangled therein to such an extent that they are unable to free themselves till their deaths. 
   
  JEEVANVIDYA does not oppose idol worship but it is against these undesirable and unfortunate practices going on in the name of God and religion.     
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