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[mk]

Namonamah.

Let us collect in one place non JV resources that could be useful. I propose that the content in this be moderated by a senior member.

I wish to present a collection of chants I found on the net. No recommendations from my side (I have not read it). Read it at your own risk.

http://www.wholebeingwellness.net/images/mantras.pdf

Thanks and regards
Milind Khadilkar

[MEENA PATKAR]

To
MK,

I read the first page of the resource given by you (on the given website).

Though I am not a senior moderator ,I think ,a junior contributor like me is enough to say that  the Vishwaprarthana given by Sadguru Shri Wamanrao Pai and the knowledge propounded by him through Jeevanvidya Mission is SUPERFICIAL than any other mantras and has the capability to have all the experiences in a simple and feasible way, which wouild have got by doing all these chanting mantras  with strict regulations for following them and would have taken a long time.

In short ,simply chanting the "Vishwaprarthana "minute to minute  gives all the experiences in spirituality at the highest level.(It can give the experiences of all the chakras mentioned ,it is even superficial to the meditation.

A basic requirement is only ,to do it with determination.Because, though VP look simple,
an ordinary person can not chant it that easily.



Thanks & regards
Meena
God bless all.

[mk]

Namonamah,
Meenajee namaste,

I respect your JV staunchness, but has not Pai Mahaaraaj advocated an open belief system? Is not naam-smaran in every form acceptable to JV?

It is in this spirit that I advocate an even respect even to non JV literature. Of course, I can only suggest so.

Thanks and regards
Milind Khadilkar

[MEENA PATKAR]

To,
MK,
Namaskar

You are absolutely right.

JV also has full respect for whatever chants & mantras,and whatever ways of worshipping God and whatever ways such as meditation etc. etc.
After studying all the literature related to Spirituality (Adhdhyatma),Sadguru Shri Wamanrao Pai has innovated the "Vishwaprarthana" i.e. The Universal Prayer,which is simple ,anybody can chant it in any language,easy to do without any conditions (such as strictly taking bath in the early morning is neccessary for chanting some mantras , this type of restriction is not there for chanting the Universal Prayer),and still giving fast results
compared to all these mantras & chants give.

For e.g. there are different ways for travelling from Mumbai to Delhi.We can go by Car ,by Train or by a Plane.Even a bullockcart can travel & reach the destination.But which is the fastest & more comfortable  is to travel by a Plane.

The Prayer is of a Plane type of way.It is upto us , which type we select.

Though I am a very big fan of JV phylosophy, I am not saying it out of any "JV Staunchness" (I am thankful to you for getting new words to learn in your post).
But it is out of the little flavour of the experience I got because of chanting VP (this is a matter of experience ,can not be explained in words).

The Vishwaprathana is proved to be SUPERFICIAL to any other chants & mantras.Many people have experienced this flavour.You will also experience it one day,if continuing  chanting VP.

Thanking you,
Meena
God bless all.

[MEENA PATKAR]

To,
All,
Namaskar

Sorry for the word used"Superficial"in the previous post .The correct word should be  "Superfine". I mean to say Vishwaprarthana i.e. Universal Prayer given by Sadguru Shri Wamanrao Pai is The best of all and it can be better understood by having the practical experience of chanting it.
 
Meena
God bless all.

[dr.nutanpol]

Namaskaar Milindji,

Thank you Meena for taking this topic for discussion.

Shri Satguru gives sadhak a name to enchant and that is called as naam or naam mantra or mantra for jap. No harm is done if we do not pronounce this name correctly though Satguru shows the correct way to pronounce it. Any one can enchant these nams. and there are no rules to be followed to enchant naam. (no shauch and ashauch, vrat and bandhan) relentless Naam smaran is the surest way to reach goal of self realization says Satguru Shri Pai Maharaj.


Many rhishis have created mantras of various deities , like son, ganesha, shiva etc. and these mantras are gayatri mantra. mrutunjay mantra etc. We must remember that we must pronounce these correctly or we may have to face some consequent bad effects. Secondly there are various rituals and rules required to be followed for enchanting these mantras. ( niyam and sadhan shuchita) Thirdly these mantras are cursed by the rhishis who have created them and for that we have to enchant other mantras followed by jap of these mantras, otherwise they are ineffective or less effective. 

Satguru Shri Wamanrao Pai has always recommended  namsmaran. Hence the previous name of JVM was Naam Sampraday Mandal. By Nam-smaran he always meant smaran of naami-chaitanya tatv or atma tatv, also means Shri Satguru smaran-sarveshwar smaran.

Satguru started doing naam smaran after reading the book written by Ra Kru Kamat, Published by Keshav Bhikaji Dhawale Prakashan,Girgaon, Mumbai, named as "Nam japache Mahatv"

This book describes the importance of doing naam sadhana as name suggests and propounds theory that after doing naam jap 1 crore times the 1st house in horoscope will be purified and accordingly after doing 12 crores Nam jap all houses from horoscope will be purified and person will get darshan of the deity whose name the sadhak is enchanting. This book has not described when sadhak will get Nirgun Sakshatkaar. JV does not believe in this type of sakshatkar and says that total eradication of deh bhav and sahaj sfuran of atm bhav is the only sakshatkaar. JV says that true sadhana starts after this nirgun sakshatkar-sahaj atm bhav.   

Shri Satguru's divine mind always stays in state of unity with the nirgun chaitanya.

By enchanting any mantra we are doing worship of that particular deity which is form of Chaitanya tatva. Hence we will be benefited but we must remember that by doing Nam smaran we are worshipping chaitany tatv directly.

By doing mantra sadhana we may get certain amount of spiritual power but without having knowledge of how to use it, it is useless for ultimate spiritual progress and in fact it it is almost impossible to handle it without the guidance of Satguru and hence sadhak may misuse it and so it will not remain for long time with the sadhak and hence time spent in doing such sadhana would be wasted.

When we are doing VP, it is for the manifested form of Chaitany tatv or Sagun chaitany tatva. By teaching Divy sadhana Satguru teaches us how to do sadhana of Nirgun chaitanya tatv with the help of VP. Which is sadhana of Nath Sampraday.Earlier this sadhana was given after taking strict test of disciples and was given to only 1-2 disciples but Satguru Shri Wamanrao who is ocean of kindness imparts to all those who are keen in learning it. He has given this sadhana to hundreds of his disciples. All saints including Swami Vivekanand and others have recommended sadhana under the guidance of Spiritual guru only as there are various dangers involved as we do not know how to handle our mind. Therefore it is advisable that everybody should take the advantage of divy sadhana given by Satguru Shri Waman rao Pai and make sarthak of his/her life, make most beneficial use of his life, not only to himself/herself but also to the whole mankind in general .


 

[mk]

Namonamah.
Thank you, Meenajee, Dr. Nutanjee,

I thank you for bringing out yet again the virtues of VP. But I am still in doubt as to whether external resources should be or should not be assembled as I had originally suggested.

Expecting directions in this matter.
Thanks and regards
Milind Khadilkar

[MEENA PATKAR]

To,
MK,
NAmaskar,

As I have already said in earlier post, Vishwaprarthana is like an airoplane travel which is fast ,comfortable and one different advantage than the plane can be said as ,it is completely safe.

On the contrary, the external resources such as mantras,chants etc. are very difficult to follow in now a days life ,where strict rules are applied for following them.And also there is a risk if not followed properly.

So keep aside all the doubts and just catch the VP.Soon you will get good experiences.(you can refer the recent post of Shri Rakesh Mahashabde ).

VP looks very simple ,but it is very powerful while giving results.It can give even better results than what the other resources give.Many people have got nice results in their lives by chanting VP.


I am sure , some day the situation will be like you are explaining the importance of VP to people.
One more thing , it is harmless in any situation to chant VP,so just be after VP and have the experience as early as possible.
Assembling the external resources is not necessary .A lot of time will be wasted in that.
Instaed, if that time is utilised for chanting VP, it will give far more nice experiences ,that the external resources would have given.
JV has never said anything against the external resources.Also there is no harm in using them ,but they are time consuming and not sure of giving the results.

Thanking you,
Meena
God bless all

[mk]

Namonamah,
Thank you Meenajee,

I was thinking of having a look at saarth haripaath following many mentions of it on JV's radio broadcasts and specially the request for its link by a member. But I will take your advise and stick to VP.

Thanks for the time and effort saving tip.

Regards
Milind khadilkar

[MEENA PATKAR]

TO,
MK,
Namaskar,

That's very nice to hear that you have decided to stick to Vishwaprarthana.Saarth Haripath is also recommened by JV.It is one of the JV resources only (not from outside  JV resources).So you can have look at SAarth Haripath also.
The VIshwaprarthana is the beginning , which will help you get all the best things in life.And as you said in various posts , youare trying your level best to stick to VP & chanting it honestly.And it has started working ,the proof of this is ,now you have come across the new resource for you i.e. "Saarth Haripath".Good, Keep it up.

There are so many other resources recommended by JV such as Sageet Jeevan Vidya,Prathane Japa Yadnya,Navanatya Spardha,Speeach competitions,Nava natya competitions ,Sangeet JV competitions,Discourses by Sadguru's Satshishyas,Abhyasvarga,
Bal sanskar varga, Yuva sanskar varga etc.etc etc.you can also have a look at them.

In the conclusion I would like to say , that you are like that frog (not a blame ,do not misunderstand, just giving an e.g.) who is staying in the well and considers only that much as a world.He doesn't know that there is a big ocean out of the well.

So please come out of the well & enjoy living in a big ocean .

Read the Abhang in Saarth Haripath at least once in a day (I am increasing your study part , bacause it is an addition to the chanting VP,but do it with determination & experience the benefits )

Thanks
Meena
God bless all.