क्या यह सही है ?

[rakeshmahashabde]

   सभी को सादर नमस्कार ,
   वर्त्तमान मैं मुझे कुछ  इस तरह के अनुभव आ रहे है कि मुझे यह विचार  करना पड़ता है कि ऐसा क्यों ?मेरे साथ जो कुछा भी अच्छा हो रहा है वह विश्व प्रार्थना के स्मरण के कारण ही है , यदि कुछा गलत हुआ तो वह  मेरे  विचारों  के कारण है | कुछ दिनों पूर्व जब मैं बस मैं यात्रा कर रहा था तब बेठे बेठे प्रार्थना का स्मरण तो था ही इसी समय जब बस  कुछ गाँवसे होकर गुजरी तो मेने देखा कि जगह जगह पानी हेतु लम्बी लाइन लगी है मन मैं विचार आया कि है इश्वर वर्षा हो जाए तो यहाँ कुछ  ग्राम वासियों को आराम हो जाए , इस बार वर्षा अच्छी हो | रात को जब मैं अपने गंतव्य पर एक होटल मैं रुका हुआ था  , लाइट  जाने  के कारण नीद खुल गई  व मेने देखा कि काफी तेज वर्षा हो रही है , जबकि दिन मैं ऐसा मौसम नही था | इसी तरह जब मैं एक अन्य शहर मैं गया हुआ था वहां जिस ऑफिस के काम से गया था उसके  एक ऑफिसर ने रात को खाने हेतु बुलाया मैं उनके साथ घर गया परिवार से परिचय के बाद चर्चा के दौरान मेने जीवन विद्या व विश्व प्रार्थना के बारे मैं बताया व प्रार्थना भी घर पर कि व उन्हें एक पुस्तक भेंट मैं दी| शायद पारिवारिक कारणों वश वह मुझे खाने हेतु होटल ले गए जब  हम होटल ऑटो से जा रहे थे तब शहर के समीप से निकली नदी के पुल पर से निकले  रात का समय था मेरे लिए नया शहर था अपने स्वभाव वश  मेने उनसे पूछा कि जब लोटेंगे क्या तब होटल से ही ऑटो मिल जायेगी उनका जवाब था कि यह पुल क्रोस करके ही मिल पायेगी | मेरे मन मैं विचार आया कि रात को पेदल पुल   क्रोस करना उचित नही | खाना खाते समय भी मुझे पुल का ध्यान आरहा था | जब हम लौट रहे थे पुल के मध्य पहुंचे ही थे कि एक बाइक पर  तीन लड़कों ने आकर बाइक हमारे सामने रोक दी व उन मे से एक ने उतर कर उन ऑफिसर से नाम पता पूछा व तलाशी लेने लगे कुछ ही सेकंड मैं पोलिस  कि गाड़ी आगई वह लड़के भागे पोलिस  आकर रुकी पूछा कोन थे व तुरंत उनके पीछे गाड़ी ले गए , हम पेदल ही   होटल गए हमे ऑटो नही मिला |
      क्या यह मेरे विचारों का परिणाम था ?
      सदगुरु चरणों में नमन कर  यही प्रार्थना कि हमेशा सद विचार ही रहे |
                 राकेश महाशब्दे
 
 

[Deepak_jvm]

Dear Rakeshjee and All,

Namaste and thank you for sharing your experience.

Yes, you can get this kind of experience. That is why though "sowale-owale" is not required while chanting Universal Prayer, you must make sure that you don't entertain negative thoughts in your mind. When any ant finds way, you try to get rid of it immediately before it bites. Similarly you should get rid of negative thoughts immediately after you notice them, before becoming intense enough to cause harm to you.

Negative thoughts before going to bed also can cause disaster very fast. The same way Universal prayer chanted until going to sleep can yield fast results.

May God bless all,
Deepak

[dr.nutanpol]

Namaskaar Rakeshji,

  When we start doing sadhana either nam smaran or VP, we may find that whatever we think, materialises in our life. So sometimes we are happy thinking that our positive thought is taking shape in our life and sometimes as a result of habit, thoughts of suspicion, doubts and fear come in our mind and we are shocked to see that they also take shape in our life. After experiencing this we really fear about what is happening in our life? Gradually we try to control thought process as Shri. Satguru has told us. See the thoughts. Catch the thoughts. Bend the negative thoughts and then turn the negative thoughts into positive one. (Vicharana paha, tyana dhara, mag tyana vakava ani tyana positive dishene valava.) For example, If I get a thought that I am feeling sick. I should see the incoming thought and say in my mind that, I am  very healthy and I am not going to be ill. I plan to do so much of work today and I am very sure of doing it by God's grace etc.

Secondly for whatever you fear, pray a positive thought for everybody. Pray that,  Oh God! may everybody be healthy! many times in mind. So that negative thought is replaced by strong positive thought.

For example if my daughter is coming  late from her hospital or some work and a thought comes in my mind whether  some mishap may have happened with her then I should pray that, Oh God! may all children return home safe from their work along with VP.  

We all have habits which are developed from many many births. Fortunately in this birth we have guidance of revered Satguru Shri Wamanrao Pai who has taught us the science of conscious and subconscious mind. Hence it might take little time for us to master this art of handling thoughts and mind. But gradually with the patience and practice we all will learn and master this art. Amen!

[mk]

Namonamah,
Dr. Nutanjee says:
QUOTE
I plan to do so much of work today and I am very sure of doing it by God's grace etc.
UNQUOTE (emphasis added)

Why God's grace?

It is OK to be kritagya and it is OK to attribute achievement to God, but that is what (according to JV) common people do because of Andhashraddhaa.

So in JV, "by God's grace" is just a manner of saying? Or is it really something where God has to come in the picture?


Also, which God? Dev, Eashwar, or, Parameshwar?

Thanks and regards
Milind Khadilkar

[MEENA PATKAR]

To,
MK,
NAmaskar

When people say "by the grace of GOd",they have the superstition that God almighty has done the work , therefore they should be thankful to him.

But from the viewpoint of JV ,when the statement is made , it means ,because of the existance of God , we were /will be able to do the work successfully.If God wouldn't have existed there , then there would not be a human life only ,that means neither the work nor the life ,and nor the satisfaction of work done would have been possible.

This God involves all the three concepts Dev, Ishwar & Parameshwar.

Hope the point is cleared.
if not , continue the next question..........

Thanks
Meena
God bless all

[Gaurav Chavan]

Meena (Tai) 

  very good Explanation..

Gaurav Chavan