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Author Topic: Being happy is supposed to be the aim of life. Why a tax on it?  (Read 1389 times)
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« on: May 11, 2008, 03:27:38 PM »

Namonamah,

In yesterday's (10th May) Akashvani programme, the narrator said that enjoying happiness causes reduction in punya.

If JV says that Man is brought into this world with the express aim of enjoying. JV almost says that enjoying life is  a kartavya. Why is it then treated on par with performance of bad acts causing reduction in nett punya?


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Milind Khadilkar
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« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2008, 04:03:19 AM »

Namaskaar MK,

When we are living life and enjoying pleasure it is a result of reaction to our good actions and also because of other people's good actions which they do for us. When others do good actions and help us we consume punya, as well as when we receive good reaction to our earlier good action then also punya in our divine bank gets used up hence it is said that enjoying life would cause reduction in punya. Hence there is constant need to do satkarma.

I think this will answer your other question regarding spouse also.

 There is no alternative for doing satkarma.Satkarmala paryay nahi
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« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2008, 10:18:20 PM »

Dear Milindjee,

Namaskar.

Thank you for your question. Let me clarify first: I could not listen to the akashwani programme. My reply is just to clarify doubt expressed in your post.

I am sure it does not necessarily represent your views. However your question provides us an opportunity to clarify doubts in the mind of somebody, irrespective of somebody accepting ownership of the doubt.

Satguru says"Swandacha upabhog ghenyasathi nisargadevatene ji vyavastha keli tya vyavasthela jeevan ase mhanatat".

Satguru also says, "Jeevan he upayogasathi asun te upabhogasathi (maja karanyasathi) nahi"

Satguru also says, "Manasacha janma Anand vatat vatat Anand lutanyasathi ahe".

Satguru also says, "You should live life in compliance with the laws of nature". 

Now coming back to your question.

Let us assume you have account in a bank. Let us also assume that you deposit all your earnings in the bank (no black). While living your life you must be earning something. At the same time for your daily routine you have to withdraw some money to pay for various bills.

Though people do complain that cost of living is increasing daily, nobody stops spending.

Unless you have infinite wealth, as a common man it is needless to teach or preach somebody that one has to keep earning to make a living possible.

While living your life you get all kinds of comforts at the cost of money (need not be necessarily yours). Of course while living life if you break any law of land, you end up paying penalty.

While living your life you get success for you or for your near and dear ones. That gives you satisfaction in life. Whether you want to pay tax on it or not, base cost (punya) is definitely deducted from your divine bank automatically. 

Of course you need not worry about deductions as long as you are doing something to earn more and more punya.

However with the intention of getting some cheap pleasure (asuri anand) if you hurt somebody you are earning paapa on one hand and losing punya on the other hand (double loss=base cost+penalty). While you do paapa, punya is spent as a penalty. That cannot be treated at par with the consumption for satisfaction.

I need not explain to you the difference between "asuri anand" and "swanand".

As a human being we have freedom to choose our "karma".

Anand vata Anand loota.

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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2008, 01:57:59 AM »

Namonamah,
Dr. Nutanjee, Deepakjee Namaste,

Thanks for your replies. A very good explanation each is!

I think JV considers it wrong to just conserve punya (through foregoing the pleasures of life) for the sake of amassing it. Am I right?

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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2008, 04:35:25 AM »

Namaskaar MK,

I am not able to understand what you have understood but this is what is my understanding about the subject about which you are writing. JV does not say that you stay away from all material pleasures. Pleasures which we enjoy through our sense organs should be enjoyed in moderation. Any thing in excess should be avoided.   

 We should remember that even though we decide to stay away from all material pleasures still our punya will be consumed because we are loved by so many, comforted by people and we stay in house which is built by somebody, eat food for which so many people have put  their efforts etc. and every thing can not be measured by money alone. So rather than worrying for loss of punya we should strive hard to earn punya as much as possible. Satguru tells us not to lose single opportunity to earn punya and remain engagaged in doing satkarma like naam-smaran and VP.
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