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« on: September 24, 2008, 08:11:57 AM »

Namaskar to all,

            Vishva Prarthana-VP

      VP is based on the laws of Nature-

1 Universal law of action and reaction- To every action there is reaction which is of equal proportion and magnitude.

2 Universal law of action and reaction when action is done at the subtle level of mind. When action occurs at the subtle level of mind, there is multiplied and magnified reaction.

3 As you think so you become.

4 Where there is effect there is cause and where there is cause there would be effect.

5 Law of interaction- If the interaction is put between action and reaction then either it will be negated or it will become mild.

6 Law of inheritance- Whatever punya is accumulated by the person, is inherited by his/her successors and they are benefitted by it.

7 Law of replacement- When VP chanting is done, mind is continuously filled with positive thoughts and they replace the negative thoughts which are deposited earlier.

8 Law of adjustment- As we alter thoughts towards others, they also change their attitude.

9 Law of Conscious Mind-Whatever thinking is done by conscious mind enters subconscious mind.

10 Law of Subconscious Mind-Whatever enters Subconsc. Mind gets materialized or takes shapes in life; as and when suitable circumstances develop.

11 Law of mind- Law of mind is law of belief. When the person has belief that he shall receive, he will receive if he has child like total faith on the power of his subconscious mind.

12 Law of Life-Cosmic force also called as life principle has taken various forms as all human beings and it wishes to express through all of them as abundance, joy, happiness and bliss and no discrimination of caste, colour, race, creed, nationality, religion etc. is done by it and this is the will of God or law of life. Any action which is harmonious to this law will have beneficial effects on the person whose behaviour is  harmonious while if any body's behaviour or actions if are contrary to this will or law will face the reaction as per the law of action and reaction.

13 Law of Force of Gravity- It is as per the saying in practical life, "Like attracts like" Every atoms have mass and force of gravity. Similarly thoughts also have mass and as per the law of gravity, positive thoughts attract the positive condition. Thoughts of good health to all will attract good health to us and similarly thoughts of prosperity and happiness to all will attract similar conditions in the life of person who chants VP!

Vishva Prarthana has following benefits-

1.     VP gives inner peace which improves your ability to concentrate.

2.     It improves the ability to handle efficiently the daily affairs of life.

3.     It increases your inner strength and power.

4.    It eliminates impatience, anger, nervousness and restlessness.

5.    It helps in managing anger, develops patience and tolerance and tactfulness.

6.   It makes you feel centred, grounded, and stable.

7.    It brings about mental and emotional calmness which contributes to improved sleep.

8.    You gain the ability to be emotionally and mentally unaffected by what people think or say about you.

9.     It eliminates stress, anxieties and worries because it relaxes mind.

10.   It brings inner happiness and bliss.

11.    It increases self mastery and self discipline.

12.     It relaxes the body and nerves.

13.   It helps in having good health.

14.    Being peaceful enables you not to be swayed by events, hardships and difficulties, and to maintain inner poise, clear judgement and
        common sense in such situations.

15.     Inner peace eliminates negative, futile and restless thinking.

16.    It improves your relationships in the family and also with other people in the society.

17.    It makes life look brighter. It changes people who have pessimistic attitude towards life.

18.    It increases creativity and skills.

19.    It is the gateway to enlightenment and spiritual awakening.

20.    People leave their bad habits like alcoholism, gambling, smoking etc. with continuous chanting of VP.

21.    The VP chanters experience material progress in their lives.

22.    Chanting VP is the best use of free time which otherwise would have spent in sleeping, unnecessary talk, taunting, criticizing others etc.

23.    It removes the habit of negative thinking.

24.     When one keeps praying for others his mind becomes broader and broader. Gradually the person becomes more sociable.

25.      Chanting of VP creates good destiny for the sadhak who is doing it. Because VP chanting changes pattern of Subconscious mind.

26.     VP is an interaction which can be put between action and reaction. By chanting VP, it is possible to avoid or dilute the reaction of
           negative action which was done by sadhak earlier in his life.

27.     Sadhak who chants VP remembers God who resides in his heart and prays for those who are His sagun forms. Hence he experiences
          that bliss is flowing through all his organs as he/she is chanting VP.

28.    No hard work is required to do this sadhana or no money is required. No extra time is required.

29.   This sadhana can be done at any time of day, at any place and no ritual is required.

30.   VP chanting can be done by men/women of all races, religions, cults, sampradays, irrespective of any caste, nationality etc.

31.    VP has Bhakti yoga, Hath Yoga, Dnyan Yoga and Karm Yoga in it.

32.     All persons who are doing their daily jobs and leading family life can do this sadhana in their free time.

May God bless all!

Ref- Sankalp Siddhiche Gupit

   May God bless all! 


     
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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2008, 08:16:56 PM »

Namonamah,
Thanks, Dr. Nutanjee.
It is a certainly very useful compilation.

Regards
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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2008, 11:50:30 PM »

Dr. Nutan,

amazing compilation of VP thoughts!

God bless all,
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God bless you, God bless all.
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« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2009, 04:38:22 AM »

Namskar Nutantaai,
 
I have one doubt in my mind..
Isn't VP actually 'ANUWAD' of Sansrkit Sholka from Upanishadas..i.e.

सर्वेपि सुखिन: सन्तु  सर्वे सन्तु निरामय:
सर्वे भद्राणि पश्यंतु मा कश्चित दु:खमाप्नुयात!!

I am calling it anuwad and not bhshantar because there some addition of changli buddhi, aishawarya etc.
But at the end the 'vichar' is one and the same only..
Then why VP is called something 'Revolutionary' pattern of Upasana?

Is it just because our prachin shlokas and prathanas are in Sansrikt and VP can be chanted in Marathi/Hindi/English?

Thanking you in anticipation.

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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2009, 07:45:16 AM »

Namaskar Gargi,

Good question is asked by you.

Yes. You are right. Both prayers the Vedic prayer and VP have the same meaning, that everybody should be happy; everybody should have good physical and mental health.

There is pasaydan by Saint Dnyaneshwar Maharaj which also has the similar meaning and also another Vedic prayer in Sanskrit- asato ma satgamay, tamasamo jyotirgamay, mrutyorma amrutam gamay.

But there is difference between these prayers and VP.

Ideally prayer should not have any word which has negative meaning; because we do not want any negative word to enter in our mind while we are praying. Prayer is supposed to be repeated and there are chances that if mind gets attracted to any negative word and that particular word gets fixed in subconscious mind then it might cause unwanted circumstances in real life. (Law of subconscious mind is whatever is deposited in subconscious mind gets materialized in life.)

If you carefully observe these prayers, you will find that, though these prayers have very positive meaning, there are negative words in them like dukkh, tamas, mrutyoh in Vedic prayers and khal, vyankati, durit, timir etc in Pasaaydan.

In VP you will find that, there are only positive thoughts.   

Secondly as you have pointed out these prayers are not in a modern language which is spoken today. So it may not be possible for all to chant it while giving attention to its meaning.

In VP, we pray for all. That is not the case with other prayers. The desire of nature is that, everybody should enjoy abundance, joy. Hence nature is not partial towards anybody. Sun, rain, rivers, trees are for everybody. Therefore VP is more in harmony with the laws of nature.

When we pray for all, these thoughts which are directed towards all go to all. Thereafter these thoughts come back to us in multiplied proportions to bless us. This occurs as per law of the nature. This part of VP is revolutionary.

So you can see that, there was a need to compile VP.

May everybody do relentless VP!

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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2009, 05:00:00 AM »

Namskar Nutanji,

Thanks for your prompt and informative reply.
Still, I would like to discuss this topic further.
First I want to discuss about Shloka
   
asato ma satgamay, tamasoma jyotirgamay, mrutyorma amrutam gamay.

I do agree that it has ?negative? words like Asat, Tamas and Mrutyu..
But how can we simply ignore that it talks about Sat, Jyoti and Amrut as well?

Aren?t Asat, Tamas and Mrutyu- harsh may be- but the ?realities? of life and when you know that you can fight them with Sat, Jyoti and Amrut, doesn?t the thought make you feel stronger??

Same applies to Pasayadan ,  though it talks about  ?khalanchi vyanakti sando? , it also wants ?Taya satkarmi rati wadho?.. similarly ?Duritanche timir jawo, vishawaswadharma surye paho??

How can any prayer to be analysed with few random words?
Wont it be then the argument for the sake of it?

And on the similar basis though VP speaks about

Sarvana changli buddhi ,arogya,sukh, anand , aishwarya de, it does not answer the question ?HOW???

(I know it will be answered in various books of JV , it does not answer in the prayer)

Truth is,just because I want to think about all good things in life, bad things are not going to disappear in the background!
Then in that case is it not more positive to know that though few things in life are ?Negative? those can be conquered/fought with lots more ?Positive? things/thinking??

Kuthalyach Sainikala yuddha nako asata he tyache ?positive? thoughts zale pan yuddha zale teri apalyakade uttam shastra ahet sangharsh karayala he postive thoughts jast strong nahit ka??

Now about VP praying about all things in Nature.
But isn?t that the basic of Hinduism??
Our country is known as ?Nagancha desh? in western world. They think we are weird people worshipping Cobras, stones, oceans and all!!
We have festivals like Vatpuja, Pola, Narali Paurnima, Nagpanchami. We worship ?Panchamahabhuta?. Isn?t it happening here for last so many centuries?

But I do understand the point of VP being in Marathi and easy to understand and chant.
And that is something different than other prayers.

Prayers,
Gargi.


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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2009, 06:49:50 AM »

Namonamah,
Dr. Nutanjee, Gargijee_Pandit,
Namaste.

In the first place, why are asat, tamas, mrtyu considered to be negative? Even according to JV, they are likely results of nisarganiyams and therefore I feel they should be thought of as positive.

Besides, what is asat? As a reply in another thread, Dr. Nutanjee has stated:

QUOTE (http://www.jeevanvidya.org/forum/index.php/topic,158.msg1081/topicseen.html#msg1081)
Technically saty asne kimva nasne yala jv jast mahatv det nasun jyamule konache man dukhavale jaanar nahi ani jyamule jastit jast lokana sukh milel ani jyamule jastit jast lokanchi atmonnati hoil  tech khare saty hoy ase pratipadan karte.
UNQUOTE (Emphasis mine)

Also, Subhashjee added in the same thread,
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please look at the definition - SATYA means NITYA. SATYA does not mean TRUE and ANITYA does not mean false. A human being even if he is ANITYA still exists and is not false. Different shades of ANITYA are NITYA-NOOTAN + different forms of manifested chaitanyashakti and SANSKARAS on that Chaitanyashakti.

UNQUOTE

And then again,
QUOTE
True or false meanings of Satya or Asatya are not implied in Vedanta and by Satguru in SAT-CHIT-ANAND narrations.

UNQUOTE

As for death, Subhashjee says
QUOTE (http://www.jeevanvidya.org/forum/index.php/topic,320.msg2382.html#msg2382)
5. VYAVASTHA is the non-mutating laws of nature. Since it is only transformation - there is no real death or birth.
UNQUOTE

I do not recollect tamas being discussed on the forum, but putting 2 and 2 together, we can guess that JV would take tamas as positive (on a lighter note, if there were no tamas, there would have been no JV!)

So, is it right to say that the three terms are negative? (and is negative also negative?)

Thanks and best wishes
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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2009, 05:33:00 AM »


If you carefully observe these prayers, you will find that, though these prayers have very positive meaning, there are negative words in them like dukkh, tamas, mrutyoh in Vedic prayers and khal, vyankati, durit, timir etc in Pasaaydan.


सर्वांना नमस्कार,

नमस्कार डॉ. नूतन पोळ

वरील अर्थ सद्‌गुरूंनी कुठल्या ग्रंथात व्यक्त केले आहेत ते कळवू शकाल काय?

सर्वांना नमस्कार, सर्वांना शुभेच्छा.
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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2009, 07:06:09 AM »

Thank you all for starting & discussing on this thread

IS : "Sarvana Shama Kar" thought is missing from VP?
       dint you all think Shama is vary necessity for forgiving our bad karma's

Thanks all Thanks all JV members Thank You

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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2009, 11:45:15 AM »

Hello Gargi,

I read your posts on forum ..and I appreciate your urge of knowing abt JV.Keep it up..
I would like to talk abt 2

1.All Namdharaks r supposed to chant VP for at least 1000 times a day.In VP Sadguru has collected beautiful thoughts n words..
which give peace to mind after chanting it from bottom of heart.
Now if I add a positive sentence 'Deva dushtanche dushtapan jao de' which has two negative words-'dushtanche,dushtapan' .
And if I chant 'it' 1000 times remembering 'terrorists in Taj'(everytime I pronounce word 'dushta') won't I remember dushta pravrutti along with God?
My mind will surely get confused which idea to pick up,'dev' or 'dushta'?

VP gives positive thoughts to mind.
Suppose a kid is told that she is dumb,and unfortunately she accepts this idea..in that state of mind,
as a remedy somebody tells her 'u r not dumb'
just repeate this sentence loudly'I am brave,I am smart' several times.After doing that(auto suggestions)she regains the energy .
But if she repeats the same sentence in different words 'I am not dumb' then her mind wavers 'that means I WAS DUMB' .
'I am smart ,I am brave' gets the results quickly bcz positive words are used.
Human psychology is associated with it.Which is used in VP chanting(only positive words).

2.

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Now about VP praying about all things in Nature.
But isn?t that the basic of Hinduism??
Our country is known as ?Nagancha desh? in western world. They think we are weird people worshipping Cobras, stones, oceans and all!!
We have festivals like Vatpuja, Pola, Narali Paurnima, Nagpanchami. We worship ?Panchamahabhuta?. Isn?t it happening here for last so many centuries?

a.)In Hinduism we worship everything in this world as u have mentioned just bcz we realise

Sarvanghati RAM Deha Dehi EK!!

All saints say so.And we should be proud of our festivals!Kevdhya udatt hetune aapan te celebrate karto.

b.)And we should proudly present it to the world in correct way.Correct presentation is imp.

c.)Why should we stop enjoying our festivals if some body says it is weird?

Everyone in this world have their own traditions.Here they celebrate Halloween..in which they wear Ghost's costumes and have fun..
Outsiders may think it is so weird to wear a ghosts costume!
So the point is festivals 'aaplyala' aanand milnyasathi astat.Karan 'Aanand watata watata lutnyasathi mansacha janma asto. '

May God Bless You!

P.S. Dr Nutantai has written in one of her posts abt the rituals in Hinduism.Please read it.





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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2009, 05:52:38 PM »

Namskar Varshatai,

Thanks for your words of encouragement.

I would like to discuss this topic further.

1.Yes, I know Namdharaks are supposed to chat VP for 1000 times a day from the bottom of the heart. Isn?t the bottom of the heart is very essential in that case? I have heard people telling me we keep chanting VP ?Ahoratra?.
One gentleman boasted once that while watching a drama on stage he has completed 3000 VPs. What is it? Some kind of race for  World Record?
JV also says that you don?t need to sit at place and do it. You can do it anywhere, anytime. I can understand that lack of rules is for making upasana easy to do. But by making it too easy , isn?t it loosing its actual ?Uddesh??  Aplyashi phone war bolatana sudha jar samorcha manus anakhi char goshti karat ahe asa apalyala watala ter aplyala rag yeto ani ithe na disanarya, na bolnarya Ishwarane matra apli hi sarmisal samajun ghyawi hi apeksha?
(to ti samajun hi gheil karan to manus nahi, ?Paremshawr? ahe! Pan aplyakade swatasathi, devasathi 10 min shant basayala wel nasawa kiwa apali tevadhihi tayari nasawi hi apali shokantika nahi ka?)
Karan mulat meditation kiwa ?dhyan? hi shant chittane karnyachi goshta nahi ka? 10 min kara, 5 min kara pan tewha fakta ?Ishwar Chintant? kara asa je apale purvaj ani agdi attach? suddha abhyasak sangatat te purnataha chook manayacha ka?

2. Dusra mudda ?Dushtancha Dushtapana jawude?hyavishayi. Hya vakyat Dushta and Dushtapan he don negative shabda ahet he agadi barobar.. Pan jar tyachech ?Dushtana satbuddhi De? he rupanter kele ki te positive hoilch na.

Ani mudda, Shlokanmadhalya ani Pasaydanamadhlya tathakathit negative shabdancha ahe.
Sanskirt shlokancha mothepana, tyatil shabdanchya vibrations cha mahatwa hya mage khup abhyas ahe ani to hi anek shatakancha..
Kalachya kasotiwar je khare utarale ani apli ?takat? siddha karu shakale tech grantha ajun hi apan abhyasat ahot.
Gyatri, Pranav, Omkar hyanmage shastriya abhays ahet, ti kahi ta la ta jodun keleli kawane nahit.  Ajahi shlokanchya awartananche results milatat, Smaranshakti tallakha karnvadhavanyasathi Sanskrit Shlok path karawun ghetale jatat(sanskrut samajale nahi teri hi!) ani tyacha hi uttam fal milata ha maza swanubhav ahe.
Ata Pasaydana baddal;Me swataha geli 24 warsha Pasaydan mhanate ahe ani tyatil prarthanechi takat hi anubhawate ahe. Aaj war ekdahi asa ghadalela nahi ki Pasayadanatale bav mazya hridyaparyant pohachun angawar romach ubhe rahile nahit. Me kai magte ahe he mala mahit asate ani tyach brobar Dev te eikato hi ahe hi bhavana mala hot asate. Ti bhavanach itaki positive ahe ki tyachya vibrations aplya shariratun lahirinsarkhya uthat rahatat.

Mala VP madhil vicharanabaddal adarach ahe  ani amhi Namdharak nahi teri hi warshanuwarsh ti amchya ghari mhaatali hi jate.
Pan tyacha mothepana sanganyasathi junya shlokana ?chotepan? anale jawu naye ewhadhich apeksha

3. Now about my statement
Our country is known as ?Nagancha desh? in western world. They think we are weird people worshipping Cobras, stones, oceans and all.
I am sorry I failed to mention that I don?t find it weird at all and I am very proud to be Indian and being part of our culture.
Whenever I go out of India, people do ask me about our religion, culture, tradition and even rituals, I try to make them understand the philosophy behind these things. I myself started to study these in more depth when I realised I represent my religion and my culture so I should watch what I speak and must speak after enough study only. I come from the family who respect traditions but not the rituals. We don?t believe in cutting branches of Banyan tree and worshipping it on Vatpaurnima. We believe that tree is made God so that at least after that people will look after it. So what is point in harming it by breaking the branches? 
Shewati,
Me wachaleya pustakatil ek manawar thasalela wakya ithe sangu icchite
?Kuthalihi goshta andhanukaranane karu naka, Ani niyam kitihi june asale teri abhaysane, anubhavane  te tadun pahilya shiway anusaru naka.Karan jagat trikalabadhit satya far kami ahet ani satat badal hach jagacha niyam ahe!?

Prayers,
Gargi
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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2009, 09:40:51 PM »

Dear Gargi,

1. Please read 'Sankalpa Siddhiche Gupit' and other Sadguru's teachings.Many of your doubts will get cleared then and there.
2. Whole day so many good,bad,unnecessary thoughts come to our mind..Many times we spend time in worring abt future or
    thinking abt negative incidents happened in past..Many times hold grudges in mind abt certain people...All this affects our
    Peace of mind.(thodya far farkane sarvanbabtit he ghadte ofcourse sant mahatme navhet).
    Becz of this
    a.)And we forget to live the present moment.
    b.)Reaction of negative thinking aayushyat negative goshti mhanun bhogavya lagtat.
        Aapan Vichar, Uchchar,Aachar ya 3 staranvar KARMA karto.VICHAR karne he suddha Karma aahe.
    c.)Yachyahi pudhe jaun Sadguru sangtat 'THOUGHT IS LIFE!'

    If this thought is so imp then we should learn to take hold of our mind and control our thoughts i.e.change our thoughts to
    positive thoughts.VP is full of beautiful thoughts and words.So repeating it continuously changes thoughts pattern in our mind.
3. Sadguru fakta prarthanach karat basa asa sangat nahit..Tumchya watyala aalele kam aawdine aani premane kara..tallin houn
    kara asa sangtat karan tyatun tumhala SWANAND chakhta yeil.
    Asha prakare kam karunhi Namdharkana 1000 times kinva jast prarthana karayla vel milto..   
    Mhanje Kam Uttam houn Material Progress hoto..aani Manashanti milun spiritual progress pan hoto.
4. Dev anubhavnyasathi Sadguru Divya bodh,Divya Sadhana shikvitat..which requires special time initially.Ya babtit senior Namdharak
    jasta sangu shaktil.Pan hi sadhana karnyasathi man sthir asnyachi far aawashykta aste..as u said in meditation.
    Te khup Prarthana mhatlyavar aapoaap sthir hou lagte.

5. 'Dushtana Sadbuddhi de ' yaat ajun ek positive shabda vaparlyavar to ajun +ve vichar zala he agdi barobar..
     aata jar mi 'Sarvana Sadbuddhi de' asa mhatla tar te purna +ve watatay na?
     a.)Karan Sadbuddhi hi kahi fakta dushtanach havi aste ase nahi..aapan jari hatat gun gheun marat sutlo naslo tari aaplyalahi
         ti  havich aste..khup goshti tharvaychya astat..aapla aayushya tyavar aavlambun asta!
     b.)Aani sarvansathi magto ..mhanje khuthlyahi eka group sathi magat nahi..mhanje large group sathi magto..mag dev tatkal
         tathastu mhatlyashivar kasa rahil?Aaplyala kevdhya lokanchya bhalyachi kalji aahe he tyala khup aawdel.
     c.)To prasanna houn ti goshta tula aadhi yeil karan tu sarvansathi magitla.(By law of Action and Reaction.)
       
6. Pratyek Namdharakane roj diwsatun ekda Haripath karycha asto..tyanantar pasaydan.Yes even we like pasaydaan..we feel it's
    vibrations and peace.Just the point is Artha kalat asel tar effect vadhto.Swataha Sadguru Ganapati Atharva Shirsh 101 vela
    mhanayche artha samjun..But mostly people don't understand Sanskrit..Even I don't understand it..I skip those lines in Geeta
    which Sadguru has written in 'AMRUTMANTHAN' or other granthas.I read only it's meaning.
    So for mass public Sadguru has brought it in Marathi.

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Kuthalihi goshta andhanukaranane karu naka, Ani niyam kitihi june asale teri abhaysane, anubhavane  te tadun pahilya shiway anusaru naka.Karan jagat trikalabadhit satya far kami ahet ani satat badal hach jagacha niyam ahe!?

Exactly hech JV sangte...patlyashivay kuthlihi goshta karu naka..pratyek goshtiche karan vichara..
Satat badal hach jagacha niyam aahe..ya badalalelya jagala Adhyatma (trikalabadhi satya) sopya bhashet mhanjech Marathit ajun sopa karun
Sadguruni sangitla aahe.Pratyek goshta sopi karaycha prayatna karne hech tar pragatiche lakshan aahe.


Please read Sadguru's Granths most of your doubts will get cleared.You are a learned girl n raised in healthy environment..I am sure u will like JV.

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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2009, 10:21:31 PM »

Namonamah,
I hope we all realize that Gargijee_Pandit is already living real JV. Why she should formally be required to accept what she already has is difficult to understand.

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« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2009, 11:44:39 PM »

Thank you all for starting & discussing on this thread

IS : "Sarvana Shama Kar" thought is missing from VP?
       dint you all think Shama is vary necessity for forgiving our bad karma's

Thanks all Thanks all JV members Thank You

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Kindly avoid posting the same message in multiple threads. The other thread newly opened with the same message has been deleted.
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« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2009, 01:04:20 AM »

Namskar Shri Sham Bhagwat,

The point regarding negative words in other prayers is discussed in details in Basic Course of JV. Swanand Yoga Part- One in the session on -

Sudarshan Chakra Jeevanvidyeche.

Shri Satguru has seen the course and has approved the material which is taught in these courses. 


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