Desperately need solution.

[kanchan]

Sarvana Namaskar

I need answer for my querry

I am always disturbed by some person's behaviour,eventhough they are not in front of me.I always remembered their deeds and gets disturbed.And it affects lots of things.How to overcome on this?

I am not Namdharak.But i am rather learning JVM Philosophy.I have read all Granthas.I try to chant VP contineausly but due to same problem I can not concentate on that also.?

Mazya Manala kase samjavata yeel?

[Chandrakant M. Chaugule]

Many peoples have same problem especially when
1.They are well settled but want further progress.
2.They are alone.
3.They are gentle and have some morals for living.
Thodkyat baryach sajjanana ha tras hoto.
Please Concentrate on following :
1.If you getting very sick,or fall in very bad troble, you need not to get this problem in your mind because if you continue with this problem your survival may end. Mothya sankatat devavachun kuni vachvu shakat nahi ani neet paha dev apanach asato (JV philosophy)
2. Keep your mind busy with only good things. Bad things are not required to pay attention. Slowly Slowly you subconscious mind will absorb that and leave your bad habit.
Best way take anugraha and strictly follow sadguru when you do bad things.
3. Try to think good about peoples. They all are gods but they have their own charcteristics. Mango trees are less in no than Jangli trees. So try to find mango, orange, banana in the peoples and neglect bori, babhali, kadulimb, ranati zade.
4.Prayatna he devavun shreshta ratna ahe.

Please follow Jeevan Vidya especially sadguru's books.

[dr.nutanpol]

Dear Kanchan,
Namaskar.

Nothing is permanent in this world, so is the state of ignorance. Man does bad deeds because of ignorance. Many times people change themselves when they come in contact with good people if they have sufficient punya and then some of these people advance spiritually faster than others because they do sadhana with great determination because of guilt.

We should chant VP for such people and hope that they will improve. We should fill our mind with all positive thoughts, attend satsang and read Shri Satguru's books many times. The thoughts which irritate you will surely leave your mind gradually as you start chanting VP with more determination.

May everybody chant VP!

[kanchan]

Sarvana Namaskar

Thank u Chandrakant jee for solution that u given.Yes,I am going to take Anugraha.And going to pay attention in Good things.

One question I really want to ask u(this question i am asking may be because of less knowledge of JV.Sorry for that)

If God is in every individual then why individual does bad deeds or does bad thaughts or any bad thing?How God in individual allows them to do that?(Here individual includes me also).

[kanchan]

Sarvana Namaskar

Thank you Dr.Nutan tai for your valuable solution.

I have already started chanting VP.But not that much concentration as all Namdharaks do.

When we chant VP for those persons then their behaviour towards us will change?or our view towards them will change?
(Karan jari aapan VP mhanat aslo tari.samorchya mansacha swabhav kasa badlu shakel?exception case jar samorcha manus VP mhant asel)

Please correct me wherever i am wrong.

[shekar_jadhav]

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[Chandrakant M. Chaugule]

Namskar Kanchanji,
I also exactly don't know the answer of your question- why human bahaves bad if he is a god.
Actually every naturally occuring thing is the image of chaitanya and it is controlled very well by a system (vyavasta) called GOD.
Now God is system which require all kind of variety to controll all.
For eg.
+ve is controlled by not only by -ve but also by neutrals (Atom),
rich peoples are adjusted by poor and medium class,
 bull market is corrected by bear market and consolidates most of the time.
So to run system rupi God, all kind of natural elements are required.
So as good peoples,there are bad peoples and lot of mixed or neutral peoples present. One thing I observed that bad is really extremly bad, good is also extremly good, in such a way that you can't change bad to good or good to bad very easily and without his will.

Shrikishna try this with Duryodhana, but can't change. At the end of Mahabharat war Ghandari blame Shrikrishna for this and cursed him that all your yadvas will die and you also feel the sorrow of kulnash. Shrikrishna said Tathastu. That means god also not capable to change these natural element in their behaviour. So what God rupi system do? it adjust all with each other and run the world beautifully.Sometime his adjustment favours bad and sometime goods but overall he require good more otherwise all will end. In todays language of market, bull and bear runs make the cycles but bull are required to keep the economy alive.
 I have very little knowledge about god. Sadguru or some senior namdharkas or Adhyatmic can explain better.

[dr.nutanpol]

Namaskar to Kanchan and all,

As we alter our thoughts towards anybody, the concerned person's thoughts are also changed and this is the law of nature. All of us have invisible world of thoughts around us. This world is real just like material world and is the basis of material world. Our thought vibrations reach others and affect them positively to give happiness and peace or it can affect negatively and can arouse hatred, anger, malice, jealousy etc.

So if we keep thinking positively about somebody then it improves our relation with the concerned person. It is not essential that this person should be chanting VP! This occurs because we think positively about him and thought waves reach his subconscious mind. Many people have experienced the effects of regular chanting of VP. Relations between mother in laws and daughter in laws have improved as a result of chanting of VP. I have heard a story of one employee who had very strict boss. Everybody in the office was very scared of him and used to hate him for his behaviour. This fellow used to chant VP visualising his boss and always used to pray that boss should be blessed with good health and mental happiness. One day boss told everybody in the meeting that, this employee is the only well wisher he has in the office and he is extremely pleased to have employee like him in the office. I have heard several examples where interpersonal relationships have improved as a result of regular chanting of VP.

 So Kanchan you can make use of VP chanting to improve your relations with others.

Regarding why people behave badly with others? Everybody wishes to be happy and thinks that if he gets certain thing/s then he will be happy. So there is competition to get what we want. While trying to get something, we forget that others also have right to get it and we behave selfishly and hence there are problems. Our behaviour is contrary to the laws of nature and everybody experiences problems as a result of even single person's wrong attitude because we all are interconnected and interdependent. Shri Satguru says that there is no scarcity of money or food grains but there is scarcity of people who apply wisdom in their lives.

Many times human behaviour is not based on the wisdom. Hence there are problems in our lives. Satguru has explained in this booklet, "Shahanpanala paryay nahi."  And also in other books like, "Purpose of life"-Manasacha janm kashasathi? And also in other books like, "Sukhacha shodh ani bodh" etc.

Shri Shekhar Jadahav has already told you about the Swanand yog -basic and advance course. I strongly recommend you to do them. Your many queries will be answered after doing them. Please continue to participate and you may ask any queries which you have in your mind.

May everybody chant VP!

[kanchan]

Sarvana Namaskar

Thank you shekarji.Thank u Chandrakant ji.

Thank you Dr.Nutantai.I Got answer of my question but i did not get answer for this qustion...

"If God is in every individual then why individual does bad deeds or does bad thaughts or any bad thing?How God in individual allows them to do that?(Here individual includes me also)."

[mk]

Namonamah,
Kanchanjee, Namaste

If you are troubled by X's misconduct (even if it is not directed at you)

1. Try to look at things from X's point of view. It could be that X has a valid reason but is using wrong methods to protect (him/her)self.
2. Try to not be troubled by X's behaviour. If you do so, unconsciously you would be thinking in the negative towards X and it will (as per JV) be reflected many times towards you.
3. Understand that unnecessarily getting a troubled frrling is a sign of weakness in you as much as it is a sign of your good nature. It is your duty to retain your nature but also protect yourself from the feeling. Work towards engaging X in a dialogue that will help X realise that X is creating enemies unnecessarily. If it is not possible individually, try to form a group. If there is likelihood  of physical abuse, take help from the police (I am not being honest here, though. Just politically correct).

Why does anybody behave so? I think this is a wrong question. It should be "Why does everybody behave so?" And the answer to this question is, everybody finds some benefit (advantage) in doing so. It is a matter of everybody's ignorance that nobody knows what is ultimately good or bad for anybody. This ignorance is good, because it has given and will continue to give us interesting and entertaining theories to come up with the answer. All rishis and scientists and people from all walks of life from all round the world from all time have been and will continue looking for the answer forever.

Thanks and Best wishes
Milind Khadilkar

[MEENA PATKAR]

To
Kanchanji,

Namaskar

I would try a little .just see if it satisfies your query.

you have understood that God is in every individual.Fine.
Only the problem occurs when some people behave nicely and some people bahave
very badly.
Every Good or bad person  is alive because of existance of the God almighty in him /her.There are many things going on in our body ,unknowingly i.e. growing of nails , growing of hairs,creation of blood, digestion of food etc etc. who is doing all this?
These things happen because of existance in God in oursalves.

But when it comes to behaviour , every person behaves differently . This behaviour depend on what kind of teachings ,guidance , sanskar & sangat he /she got while growing up.Here God almighty does not interfere.Whatever sangat & sanskar he /she gets that only makes the shilpa of his/her own life.That is why the divya sandesh Shri Sadguru has given'you are the architect of your destiny'.

Sadguru always gives example of electricity resembling with God.

Because electricity exists, all the electric equipments run.But whenever the electricity power supply is cut , these can not run on their own.
Also whether these elecric equipments can be useful or harmful  ,depend upon how we are using them , with knowledge -useful , without knowledge -harmful. Here electricity is not interfering anywhere for harming or being useful .

We can see the e.g. of Walya koli .He was so vicious , when he used to kill people for earning money.But when he came in the sangat of Naradmuni , after getting the true guidance , he became Walmiki Rishi , he became a great writer of "Ramayana".In both the situations God was there existed in him.But  his behaviour was different , according to the sanskar & guidance he got.


Thanks
Meena
May God bless all.

[dr.nutanpol]

Namaskar Kanchan, Meena and all,

Meena has explained nicely in her mail but I want to draw your attention towards certain points.

Many people think that Lord Rama or Lord Krishna or our beloved deity which they worship is sitting in their heart and is guiding them in their lives. But this is not a fact.

God is chaitany shakti-cosmic life force which has taken all living and non living forms. Hence C. S. (chaitany shakti-sat+chit + anand) is expressed in all forms. Chaitany shakti is adhishthan in all forms but chit which is inherent part of all creatures is consciousness (Janiv) and depending on the level of consciousness the activities are done by creatures.

In human being chit is at the highest level. Chit when it is pure it is in Shiv avastha. As consciousness (Janiv) comes at lower and lower level to experience anand which is its own swarup it becomes more and more impure.

Man is in search of bliss-anand, which is integral part of his original existence. In the process of manifestation, C.S. has forgotten its cosmic-universal existence and got illusion (due to maya-reason unknown, imagination and sanskars from the world) that it exists as a one single form (body).  In all the forms the same illusion exists except in self realized saints.

It is due to this ignorance that all problems are created. Hence Satguru says knowledge is God-Shiv avastha and ignorance is devil-saitan.   
So what is important to remember that as we cannot blame electricity for getting shock if we have touched the live due to ignorance; the same way C.S. which is adhisthan of all of us is not responsible for our behavior which is not in harmony with the laws of nature. So in our existence CS is adhisthan and does not have any role of taking decision. Man?s own intellect-form and part of consciousness is responsible for all actions.
For all the actions by us, our way of thinking-thoughts are responsible. Many times it is a habitual process.

Our way of thinking is affected due to circumstances around us-(paristhtiti), company we keep-(sangati), moral values which are inculcated in our mind by parents, relatives, teachers, reading books etc. (sanskar) and our own desires and aspirations-(vasana-ichcha).

May everybody chant VP!

[kanchan]

Sarvana Namaskar

Thank u Meena tai and Dr.Nutan tai for great explanation.

[subhash]

Kanchan,

1. Desperately need solution - Try the simple solution desperately - Chant VP at least 1000 times a day. If you think of the person troubling you then say the prayer with that person in your mind.
2. If there is God in everybody why do they behave the way they behave? - God has nothing to do with chaotic conditions in the world. We have a free will. God does not allow or not allow. God does not give or take anything - happiness or sorrows. These are but reactions to our own actions. Dr. Nutantai has answered nicely. SANSKAR is main thing which drives behaviour (Meena's answer). MK's points are also good.
3. Courses is indeed a good thing. Pimpri one starting in Jan.

God bless you, God bless all,
Subhash

[Ajit]

Vitthal Vitthal,

I totally agree with Kelkar kaka. I tried and implemetnted this solution in my office 2 years back and I got success for the same. Addition to this I would suggest always think positive about that person. Dev tyache Bhale karo tyachi unnati karo.


Ajit