Jivan vidya and children

[Varsha]

yes...thank you Mr. Deepak you have anwsered it! I will just elaborate on it...

how our kids will accept our idea of God??
Well,how did we accepted the traditional idea of God in our childhood??
1. Our parents told us,'this is God Ganesh(worship him, he will give u wisdom),
   this Godess Laxmi(Worship her,she will give u wealth)....
   and we accepted it...
2. We also followed our surrounding people who used to worship in the same way...

Becz at this age kids follow the elders...they r obligent.
As Sadguru say,'AAPLI  PAATI KORI HOTI'...And whatever we write on this blank slate
it is printed permanently on our subconscious mind.


As Sadguru say,"God is the one who gives..." Tell ur kid,God has given us eyes so that we can see this beautiful world,he has given us ears to listen,legs to move,hands to work...so we should say thanx to him...we should offer him respect...
God has appeared in the form of wind ,water,trees,birds...u can see them...he is present everywhere...And in everyone...even in you and me...

Then u can tell ur role in his life,his dad's role,teacher's role...what all of u give him,and he should be thankful for that...
This way he will become humble
Sadguru has given us this knowledge for free...so we should be thankful to him...
And we should worship him...


Only mother can know her child's level...what he can understand and what not...so depending on that you can teach him.If you will tell JVM to outside person you can't predict his reaction but your kid will definitely follow you...becz you have a very wonderful relation with your kid...he is still young...whatever you will teach him he will grasp it...

Wish you good luck...and may your baby emerge with flying colours...

P.S.: Mr.Bhagwat thank you for giving us tips...and your Marathi is excellent!

[akanksha]

yes...thank you Mr. Deepak you have anwsered it! I will just elaborate on it...

how our kids will accept our idea of God??
Well,how did we accepted the traditional idea of God in our childhood??
1. Our parents told us,'this is God Ganesh(worship him, he will give u wisdom),
? ?this Godess Laxmi(Worship her,she will give u wealth)....
? ?and we accepted it...
2. We also followed our surrounding people who used to worship in the same way...

Becz at this age kids follow the elders...they r obligent.
As Sadguru say,'AAPLI? PAATI KORI HOTI'...And whatever we write on this blank slate
it is printed permanently on our subconscious mind.


As Sadguru say,"God is the one who gives..." Tell ur kid,God has given us eyes so that we can see this beautiful world,he has given us ears to listen,legs to move,hands to work...so we should say thanx to him...we should offer him respect...
God has appeared in the form of wind ,water,trees,birds...u can see them...he is present everywhere...And in everyone...even in you and me...

Then u can tell ur role in his life,his dad's role,teacher's role...what all of u give him,and he should be thankful for that...
This way he will become humble
Sadguru has given us this knowledge for free...so we should be thankful to him...
And we should worship him...


Only mother can know her child's level...what he can understand and what not...so depending on that you can teach him.If you will tell JVM to outside person you can't predict his reaction but your kid will definitely follow you...becz you have a very wonderful relation with your kid...he is still young...whatever you will teach him he will grasp it...

Wish you good luck...and may your baby emerge with flying colours...

P.S.: Mr.Bhagwat thank you for giving us tips...and your Marathi is excellent!

hi varsha, mr bhagwat n deepak,

THANK U VERY VERY MUCH

MALA KHUP BHAVLE AGDI MANAPASUN PATLE yes mala hech utter hawe hote

again thank u very much excellent answer


god bless u

[J D PADWAL]

Dear Shambhagwat


I could not read your reply.  Please help.

God Bless you and all.

Regards

J. Padwal

[shambhagwat]

I am attaching jpg file.
ShamBhagwat

[shambhagwat]

P.S.: Mr.Bhagwat thank you for giving us tips...and your Marathi is excellent!

Namaskar Varsha,

The tips are not mine.? I have collected it from the books of Sadaguru.? How?? I have explaining it in marathi.

ShamBhagwat

   पौर्णिमेचा चंद्र आकाशात प्रकाशाची सर्वत्र उधळण करीत आहे.? आईच्या कडेवर एक लहान मूल आहे.? तो सुंदर पौर्णिमेचा प्रफुल्लित चंद्र आपल्या लेकराने पहावा ही आईची इच्छा.? परंतु इतक्या दूरवर लेकराची दृष्टी चटकन कशी जाईल असा विचार आईच्या डोक्यात घोळत आहे.? इतक्यात तिला एक कल्पना सुचली, तिने आपल्या लेकराला जवळच्या अंतरावर असलेल्या एका झाडाच्या फांदीकडे पहाण्यास सांगितले.? हेतू असा की, त्या फांदीकडे पाहाता पाहाता त्या लेकराची नजर त्या फांदीच्या पलीकडे जाऊन त्याला चंद्र दिसावा.? (तूच आहेस तुझ्या जीवनाचा शिल्पकार पान क्र.१७९)
   मुर्तिपूजेची उपासना पध्दत चांगली असूनही त्याचा खेळखंडोबा कसा झाला हे समजावून सांगताना सद्‌गुरूंनी दिलेल्या दृष्टांतातून मला जे सुचले ते सर्व मी लिहिले आहे.?

   जसे झेपेल तसे विचार भरविणे : प्रत्यक्षात आईला दाखवायचा आहे चंद्र पण ती दाखवते आहे झाडाची फांदी.? म्हणजे वरवर पाहाता पोटात एक व ओठात दुसरेच असे म्हणता येईल.? पण तसे नसून (इतक्या दूरवर लेकराची दृष्टी कशी जाईल) या वाक्यातून आई आपल्याला मुलाला काय झेपेल याचाच विचार करत असते व तोवर तिला चैन पडत नाही.? आणि त्यासाठी तिला आपल्या लेकराची कुवत लक्षात घेऊन त्याला झेपेल अशी युक्ति वापरण्यासाठी कल्पनाशक्तीला ताण द्यायला लागतो. इतकेच नव्हे तर तारतम्य बुध्दीही वापरावी लागते.? ?म्हणूनच मला ही प्रयत्नपूर्वक साधायची कला आहे असे वाटले.
   निर्व्याज्य प्रेम :? मुलाला तो पौर्णिमेचा चंद्र नाही दिसला तर आईचे काय बिघडणार आहे?? पण तो चंद्र पाहून आपल्याला जसा? आनंद झाला तसा आनंद आपल्या लेकराला व्हावा ही त्या आईची मूळ ईच्छा आहे.? त्या लेकराला आनंद झाल्यावर ते लेकरू आनंदाने टाळ्या पिटेल किंवा गोड हसेल तेव्हा तिला आपल्या प्रयत्नाचे सार्थक झाल्यासारखे वाटेल हे नक्की.? म्हणजेच आईची सर्व धडपड ही लेकराला आनंद व्हावा हीच असते.? दुसऱ्याला आनंद व्हावा म्हणून झटणे हे निर्व्याज प्रेमाशिवाय शक्य आहे का?? निर्व्याज्य प्रेम ही मला वाटते अत्युच्य दर्जाची दैवी गुण संपत्ती आहे व त्यात प्रचंड शक्ती आहे असे मला वाटते.? आणि त्या जोरावरच ती यश मिळेपर्यंत वाट्टेल तेवढे कष्ट उपसू शकते असे मला म्हणायचे आहे.

   थोडक्यात मुलावर कसे संस्कार करायचे हे शिकण्यासाठी हे उदाहरण मला आदर्शवत वाटले म्हणून इतके सगळे लिहिले आहे.? या उदाहरणातून मी फक्त अर्थ शोधायचा प्रयत्न केला आहे.? ?त्यात माझे स्वत:चे नव्याने सुचलेले काहीही नाही.

[shambhagwat]

Question asked by Akanksha is short.
Short explanation in Jeevanvidya is "Jo deto to Dev". The one who gives something good is God. For details you may read Chapter 10- Pach dev jeevanvidyeche (Five Gods of Jeevanvidya) in the book "Sugandh Jeevanvidyecha".

I hope this answers Akanksha'a question.

God Bless you.
Deepak

Dear Deepak
Namaskar,

The question is what is the meaning of "Jai Bappa" and not only "Bappa".? The words "Jai Bappa" are used in different context and have some extra meaning having much more wide angle.? It states the victory of Bappa.? In other words Bappa means our Atma (आत्मा)  and it should get victory in Dharma, Artha, Kam and Moksh (धर्म, अर्थ, काम आणि मोक्ष).? ?It also means that all necessary actions may be get performed by me to achive the victory.? The words are used to propagate/motivate ourself to achive the victory.

ShamBhagwat

[Deepak_jvm]

I would like to go back to Varsha's post dt July 09, 2006. She mentioned, "We also followed our surrounding people ...."
We have to be very careful about this.
Kids learn what we teach.But, that is not the only thing they learn.
Kids try to follow their surrounding people. That is why Satguru asks, if father is drinking wine, is his son going to drink buttermilk? He also will ask for the same. If we wnt our kids to do universal prayer,
Kids will do what they see.
Kids will say what they hear. We don't have to teach everything. They learn many things without waiting for you to teach them.
So be careful, Kids are watching you!

God Bless you,
Deepak

[Varsha]

Hello Dr. Nutan,
As I told you my son is 2yrs young.How to teach him to obey parents?Like we go for walk for say 1 hr then he refuses to go back home and tries to escape.Then I need to tell him I will show him his favorite cartoon or give him his favorite sweets to eat.Is this right that each time to make him listen to me I have to show him some fruit?
Is this a normal  with this age kids?

Also let me know what other things should I teach him by this age?What do you teach in Bal sanskar kendras for this age kids?

Other members please add your ideas too.

God bless all.
Varsha

[rahul_parab]

Hi Varsha,

Try this experiment,
When your son sleeps, put your hands on his head , chant vishwaprathana and pass your good wishes/deeds through same. Try this for several times.
See the result then.

My mom used to try this on me and she said she got good results.

regs
Rahul

[prashant1406]

Hi Varsha

Same problem I was facing with my child.  Due to epilepsy problem by birth we have to give him high dose of antibiotics due to which his personality became very aggressive.

Meanwhile I come to know about Manashakti Kendra, Lonawala.  I taken appointment of Manashakti Kendra who analysis my child, take some tests and suggest us some prayers for child and for us.

Due to regular prayers with trust we observes unbelievable change in my child. Now my child is doing very well he is behaving as normal child and very cool and calm. He is showing very much intrest in spiritual thing.

Along with Vishwaprathna I would like to suggest you that you can take an opinion of manashakti, which may help you and your child. They may take some test of your child and suggest you some prayer, Mantra or CD for your child.

There is tremendous power in Mantra & Prayers only thing you need to do very seriously and with trust.
You can also visit   http://manashakti.org  for more details


God bless you.

Prashant Adkar

[dr.nutanpol]

प्रिय वर्षा नमस्कार,
एवढी लहान मुले अशीच वागतात. ती जेव्हा जास्त हट्ट करतात तेव्हा आपणही आपल्या मनासारखे ताबडतोब वागले पाहिजे हा हट्ट धरायचा नाही तर त्यांना distract करायचे. दुसरीकडे त्यांचे लक्ष वळवायचे आणि मग त्यांना हळूच आपल्याला हवे ते करायला लावायचे. आपण घरी गेल्यावर खूप गंमत करणार आहोत त्याला आवडणारा खेळ खेळणार आहोत तर कधी त्याला छान गोष्ट सांगणार आहोत. कधी गाणे एखादा video game, painting असे काहीतरी करणार आहोत असे सांगायला हरकत नाही. तो जेव्हा खूप चांगल्या मूड मध्ये असेल तेव्हा त्याला हे सांगायचे, देवाला चांगले वागणारी, आई-वडिलांची ऐकणारी मुलेच फ़ार आवडतात. त्यांना आयुष्यात सगळ्या आवडत्या गोष्टी मिळतात. ह्ट्ट करणारी मुले आजी-आजोबा, मावशी-काका यांना कोणालाच आवडत नाहीत. यापैकी कोणाला तू माझे ऐकत नाहीस हे कळले तर ते तुला गूड बॉय म्हणणार नाहीत. त्यांना तू खूप आवडतोस. त्यांना तुझे वागणे कळ्ले तर खूप वाईट वाटेल.आपल्याला असे वाटते की लहान मुलांना काही कळत नाही पण तसे नसते. काही वेळेस ते आपली परीक्षा घेतात आपल्या सहनशक्तीची, संयमाची. तेव्हा आपण तो prestige issue करायचा नाही. तेवढ्या वेळेपुरते गप्प बसायचे आणि नंतर दाखवून द्यायचे that he has to listen to you and he has no choice but to listen to you. पण जेव्हा जास्त हट्ट करतात तेव्हा distract करण्याशिवाय पर्याय नाही. मूलाला रोज प्रार्थना म्हणायला आपल्याबरोबर बसवायचे.
    रात्री झोपताना अगदी झोप लागायच्या वेळेस (तेव्हा अंतर्मन उघडे असते) त्याच्याकडे बघून मी छान मुलगा आहे. माझी आई माझ्यावर खूप प्रेम करते. मला ती खूप आवडते. मला तिचे ऐकायला आवडते. असे रोज म्हणायचे. हे विचार त्याच्या अंतर्मनात जातील. आणि तो निश्चितच ऐकायला लागेल. याशिवाय सदगुरूंना बाळाबद्दल प्रार्थना करायची. विश्वप्रार्थना नेहमीप्रमाणे म्हणायची व त्यानंतर जगातील सर्व लहान मुले त्यांच्या आई-वडिलांचे ऐकोत असे म्हणायचे. सदगुरू म्हणतात जे तुम्हाला हवे ते जगातील सर्वांसाठी मागा म्हणजे तुम्हाला लवकर मिळेल. मला खात्री आहे तुझा मुलगा निश्चितपणे तुझे ऐकायला लागेल.  all the best. good bye..
 

 
vitthal vitthal..........

[Varsha]

Thank you so much Dr.Nutan,Prashant and Rahul for your motivation and guidance.

 रात्री झोपताना अगदी झोप लागायच्या वेळेस (तेव्हा अंतर्मन उघडे असते) त्याच्याकडे बघून मी छान मुलगा आहे. माझी आई माझ्यावर खूप प्रेम करते. मला ती खूप आवडते. मला तिचे ऐकायला आवडते. असे रोज म्हणायचे. हे विचार त्याच्या अंतर्मनात जातील. आणि तो निश्चितच ऐकायला लागेल. याशिवाय सदगुरूंना बाळाबद्दल प्रार्थना करायची. विश्वप्रार्थना नेहमीप्रमाणे म्हणायची व त्यानंतर जगातील सर्व लहान मुले त्यांच्या आई-वडिलांचे ऐकोत असे म्हणायचे. सदगुरू म्हणतात जे तुम्हाला हवे ते जगातील सर्वांसाठी मागा म्हणजे तुम्हाला लवकर मिळेल. मला खात्री आहे तुझा मुलगा निश्चितपणे तुझे ऐकायला लागेल.

Dr.Nutan you told me how to use visualisation with this small kid.I felt like reading your post again and again.
Thank you so much.

Prashant the website you have recommonded is too good.Also you have solved my problem of story telling...I found huge stock of marathi childrens stories on this website.

When your son sleeps, put your hands on his head , chant vishwaprathana and pass your good wishes/deeds through same. Try this for several times.
See the result then.

My mom used to try this on me and she said she got good results.

Thanks Rahul for your post...and thanks to your mom also.

I would like to thank our beloved Sadguru because of whose blessings I met you wonderful people on forum.
I will surely follow your precious ideas.

Thank you once again.
May God bless all.
Varsha

[gargi]

Vitthal Vitthal to everyone,

I wanted to share information regarding a book which is really great for little kids. Its by an American psychologist/spiritual master Dr Wayne Dyer and it emphasises all the important principles of Jeevan Vidya given to us by our beloved sadguru. The name of this book is " INCREDIBLE YOU".In a poem format it emphasises important points in spirituality and also has nice illustrations and examples for children. You can buy this book on Dr Dyer's website. It is : www.drwaynedyer.com

May God Bless Us All With Akhand Vishwaprarthana and knowledge

[vidyanil]

Dear All,

I am forwarding one beautiful message I received in my mail box for the benefit of jvm members.

When You Thought I Wasn't Looking
Written by a former child [/b]
Author Unknown
A message every adult should read, because children are watching you and doing as you do, not as you say.

When you thought I wasn't looking, I saw you hang my first painting on the refrigerator and I immediately wanted to paint another one.

When you thought I wasn't looking I saw you feed a stray cat, and I learned that it was good to be kind to animals.

When you thought I wasn't looking, I saw you make my favorite cake for me and I learned that the little things can be the special things in life.

When you thought I wasn't looking I heard you say a prayer, and I knew there is a God I could always talk to and I learned to trust in God.

When you thought I wasn't looking, I saw you make a meal and take it to a friend who was sick, and I learned that we all have to help take care of each other.

When you thought I wasn't looking, I saw you give of your time and money to help people who had nothing and I learned that those who have something should give to those who don't.

When you thought I wasn't looking, I saw you take care of our house and everyone in it and I learned we have to take care of what we are given.

When you thought I wasn't looking, I saw how you handled your responsibilities, even when you didn't feel good and I learned that I would have to be responsible when I grow up.

When you thought I wasn't looking, I saw tears come from your eyes and I learned that sometimes things hurt, but it's alright to cry.

When you thought I wasn't looking, I saw that you cared and I wanted to be everything that I could be.

When you thought I wasn't looking, I learned most of life's lessons that I need to know to be a good and productive person when I grow up.

When you thought I wasn't looking, I looked at you and wanted to say, 'Thanks for all the things I saw when you thought I wasn't looking.'

Each of us (parent, grandparent, aunt, uncle, teacher or friend) influences the life of a child. How will you touch the life of someone today?

May god bless all with akhand naamasmaraan.

vidyanil

[Varsha]

wow!this is an excellent message!Thank you Mr.Vidyanil for sharing it with us.