JVM Philosophy easy to grasp but difficult to digest

[Neelam]

Hi

   JVM philosophy can be explained to a small child and he can easily understand it and work towards implementing it, but same you try telling it to an adult and see what weird responses u get! Some responses like 'hey kadhi hota kay'? , 'World is not so innocent'. 'Just saying prayers for ALL cant change anything'...blah blah blah. People as they grow become more and more closed to understand simple things of life and start thinking they have seen it all and know it all. Now in this situation how do you get ur near and dear ones to understand and have faith in it? Any feed back or experiences on this front would be highly appreciated and put in practice..

God Bless All
Neelam

[Pankaj Naik]

Dear Neelam,
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I know it is very difficult to make understand certain issues 2 ur dear ones as thy r not in a position to listen to u nor can u force u them to do so. i can suggest 2 steps for u to act upon :

1.? Constantly talk with them @ jeevanvidya and its philosophy and u also follow the preachings of Sadguru.

2.? Most Important thing tat u can do is always chant prayers keeping those dear ones in front of u and imagine that thy also are chanting the prayers with u.

This will give u success.

BEST OF LUCK

Regards,

Pankaj Naik

[Vaibhav Nimbalkar]

Nice answer by Pankaj Naik !
Really  if U follow it first and if at all 'they' are able to see any change(obviously good) in U then they are attracted at ease 4 sure, that is my own experience!! coz my dad showed a drastic change in himself and that made me think about this renowned philosophy of Jeevanvidya!

[shambhagwat]

Namaskar,

First I want to make some points clear about my inexperience in JeevanVidya.
I am a new member joined today. On 29th April 2006 for the first time I red the book "Tuch Aahes Tujhya Jeevanacha Shilpakar" and 2nd reading is on the way. This is the only book of JeevanVidhy I have red. I have not attended any Pravachan or otherwise and have no Anugrah etc. That is why please guide me if there is any misunderstanding in my own thoughts.

As per the said book we should pray for others to get positive reaction in our own sub-causious mind. The world will change but will take its own time. We should not think about it.

Secondly It is a rule that these positive reaction developed in our mind helps us in future. In other words we get changed positively by praying. As we all are the part of the world. The changes in our own also be called as changes in the world to some extent.

Thirdly suppose there are ten thousand prayers then these ten thousand prayers will get changed in future and world to that extent will be changed. In other words more the number of prayers the world will get changed more quickly.

Please try to tell your nearest that you are praying not to change the world but for your own benifits. When they know that you are doing all these things for your own benifits, they will not oppose you as a first step.

The next step they will join you, if and only if they will experience the positive changes you have acquired.

with Regards,
ShamBhagwat

[Vaibhav Nimbalkar]

Dear ShamBhagwat,
       first of all I'm glad to see that U've expressed urself so beautifully that I'm confused whether to consider U a new or an 'experienced' member of JVM hence U should not feel inferior to be a fresh member, but to ask ur queries very frankly indeed...and one thing, we r all here to enhance our understanding , so nobody is perfect(except Satguru) here and we r here to help others 4 the same!
     Thank U once again 4 such a nice post!
         Viththal Viththal !!

[Raj]

Hi Neelam,
That's very good question u asked..............first thing one? should understand how he/she entered? into JVM.... how u got convinced....u can apply same funda to others wherever it is appropriate.

2) Now next step is to whom u want to bring in JVM coz i have a experience that if he is young & mondern & if u take him to Upasana Yadnya as 1st? step u can think what will happen..........I prefer that u should introduce them Yuva-kendra as a good start. ( the Best example is mine )

3) it is not easy task to convince someone Jeevanvidya philosophy.....so u should treat the peoples as per their mindset. It means u have to observe them & then decide what they can digest...... feed that only

4) Remember that ppl doesnt get into something till the time their rappo doesnt match.

5) Most important thing is our moto is not to spread Jeevanvidya or not to make JVM-ites our main goal is that everybody will follow the +ve things which defined by nature & sadguru's shown way to live the life.

So don't force someone to be a JVM-ite but see that he will follow JVM prinicples. (Correct me here if i m wrong).

6) aani Jeevanvidyeth yenysathi? punya hi gathisi asava lagath

Regards
Raj

[rahul_parab]

Hi Neelam,

It is one of the good question u put. As per my understanding, if we tell people theory all times then they dont agree easily or get borred or do not trust on what we say ... but if that theory is implemented and experienced in real scenario and shown to them then it works excellently.
I will give you one example might be reaching somewhere to this pt ..... in telecom service industry, there is a concept called service test case analysis? occurs in which the telecom services are shown working (thru some simulators) to client from vendor. The client or customer makes the further decision about purchasing that telecom product (giving the reqd services) depending upon these cases (might be in form of demo).
Like that I feel if we show from our experiences , how it helped us,how much imp jeevan Vidya is ,and what it? can do excellent........... then those people will definately get attracted to JVM and start practising it.
We need to convince them about how the philosophy works as well as how we used it and achieve the good results.
Try to explain the science of Prathana...... tell them the logic behind it.
One thing I would like to suggest you that as do not start any comparision by urself. Give some time to people for judgement. If you have doen ur work well then you will get good results.
When I applied the same funda in Granth Dindi then I got some good results though we had less time in hand.

One more thing I would like to add...
Kids are like sand (maati) . The way u mould them,they get moulded. Hence If you tell them about Jeevan vidya, they will grasp easily and start implementing it. As they do not have much of experience , they follow what we say and what we give them.

This is what I have to say......

Thanx

[Varsha]

Hi all,
This is a good question raised by Neelam...even I struggled on it.
And thank you all for giving solutions...I can realise the mistakes I made while implementing...

Thank you so much...
Varsha